ANOTHER debuging cry for help... OCD Overdrive!

Started by jfrabat, May 27, 2020, 07:20:23 PM

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jfrabat

I am trying to revive those old builds that I never got around to getting to work.  This one is also about a year old, and has been sitting around waiting for me (AND YOU!) to find out the problem!

This one is a board from Tayda Electronics for the OCD overdrive.  Build instructions are here, but no schematic is given.

Despite looking like a rat's nest, the jacks and stompswitch work, as in bypass I get good sound.  But with the circuit activated, sound disappears.





Changes from original:
- Did not have 220pF caps, so used 100pF and 120pF in parallel (C3 and C6)
- Resistors were supposed to be 1% (CuteQueen from Amazon; BEWARE!), but are more like 10% in reality (measured).

Measurements:

Battery: 9.56V

2N7000 (1 -  the one at the top in the pic)
S: 0.544V
G: 0.544V
D: 1.165V going down to 1.152V

2N7000 (2)
S: 0.742V
G: 0.742V
D: 0.531V

IC1:
1: 0.650V
2. 0.644V
3. 0.518V
4. 0V
5. 0.642V
6: 1.047V
7: 1.061V
8: 1.080V

Any ideas?
I build.  I fix.  I fix again.  And again.  And yet again.  (sometimes again once more).  Then I have something that works! (Most of the time!).

Slowpoke101

C9 is in backwards.
R12 is 100K. It is supposed to be 100R (100 Ohms ).
Check that R13 and R14 are actually 10K.


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jfrabat

Quote from: Slowpoke101 on May 27, 2020, 07:52:43 PM
C9 is in backwards.
R12 is 100K. It is supposed to be 100R (100 Ohms ).
Check that R13 and R14 are actually 10K.

Thanks a million!  I cannot fathom how quickly you guys catch these errors...  I imagine my dyslexia does not help, but still!

OK, replaced R12, checked R13 and R14 (they were OK).  Changed C9 (it was easier to change because the legs were too short) and put it in the right polarity.  I imagine I must have a short or something, because I still get no sound..

I build.  I fix.  I fix again.  And again.  And yet again.  (sometimes again once more).  Then I have something that works! (Most of the time!).

Slowpoke101

Progress!  :icon_biggrin:     Excellent...

Now, measure the voltages again please. By replacing R12 with the correct 100R resistor the voltages should now make more sense...hopefully..

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jfrabat

Never mind...  APPARENTLY, when you connect the input to the amp and the output to the guitar, you get no sound when you activate the pedal...   :P

Thanks a million!  I now have a working OCD pedal!
I build.  I fix.  I fix again.  And again.  And yet again.  (sometimes again once more).  Then I have something that works! (Most of the time!).

Slowpoke101

Quote from: jfrabat on May 27, 2020, 09:30:17 PM
Never mind...  APPARENTLY, when you connect the input to the amp and the output to the guitar, you get no sound when you activate the pedal...   :P

Thanks a million!  I now have a working OCD pedal!

Ahh..The second or third most common fault  ;) . Rest assured that you are not alone. I generally call these types of faults an ID-10T error (which means that i am a bit of an idiot at times..well, most of the time ).

Another effects pedal to play with. Enjoy  :icon_mrgreen:
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Quackzed

Slowpoke101  ??? . i'll say!!!  took you a whole half hour from the time of the op to scan diagnose and fix it. (with a little help from jfrabat :icon_wink:) NICE!!! 


nothing says forever like a solid block of liquid nails!!!

antonis

Quote from: Slowpoke101 on May 27, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
Ahh..The second or third most common fault  ;)

Name the first one in this very moment..!!!  :icon_biggrin:
"I'm getting older while being taught all the time" Solon the Athenian..
"I don't mind  being taught all the time but I do mind a lot getting old" Antonis the Thessalonian..

Marcos - Munky

Quote from: antonis on May 28, 2020, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: Slowpoke101 on May 27, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
Ahh..The second or third most common fault  ;)

Name the first one in this very moment..!!!  :icon_biggrin:
I'd say is one among test the circuit without power, or without putting the ic, or without plugging in the guitar cable, or without turning the amp on. I did all of those ones :icon_lol:

jfrabat

Quote from: antonis on May 28, 2020, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: Slowpoke101 on May 27, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
Ahh..The second or third most common fault  ;)

Name the first one in this very moment..!!!  :icon_biggrin:

No power to the board?
I build.  I fix.  I fix again.  And again.  And yet again.  (sometimes again once more).  Then I have something that works! (Most of the time!).

11-90-an

Quote from: Slowpoke101 on May 27, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
Ahh..The second or third most common fault  ;)

Name the first one in this very moment..!!!  :icon_biggrin:
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putting polarized caps backward?
Quote from: antonis on May 28, 2020, 08:24:39 AM
flip flop flip flop flip

jfrabat

I build.  I fix.  I fix again.  And again.  And yet again.  (sometimes again once more).  Then I have something that works! (Most of the time!).

Quackzed

...Thinking it was gonna work w/o troubleshooting...  :)
nothing says forever like a solid block of liquid nails!!!

jfrabat

Quote from: Quackzed on May 28, 2020, 01:22:31 PM
...Thinking it was gonna work w/o troubleshooting...  :)

Hey, it HAS happened...  ONCE, but it HAS happened!!!
I build.  I fix.  I fix again.  And again.  And yet again.  (sometimes again once more).  Then I have something that works! (Most of the time!).