Problem with SWAH (Super Auto Wah)

Started by awgearhart, July 14, 2020, 10:24:14 AM

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awgearhart

If I measured 0 nF with the multimeter across C11, doesn't that indicate there's a short?

I took out R29, R30  and put them directly into the socket with the IC2, soldered C11 in parallel with R30, connected them to their respective destinations outside of their mounting holes and still same readings on Q2 and Q3.

awgearhart

Here are pictures of where I'm at right now. I'm so close to just buying a new PCB this is so frustrating!  :icon_mrgreen:





bluebunny

Quote from: awgearhart on July 15, 2020, 10:25:43 AM
soldered C11 in parallel with R30

You can't measure the capacitance of a capacitor if you have a resistor (or anything else) connected across it.
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willienillie

Looking at the back of your board, you've got a number of cold and/or incomplete solder joints.  Also some excess that should be trimmed.

awgearhart

Quote from: bluebunny on July 16, 2020, 03:52:47 AM
You can't measure the capacitance of a capacitor if you have a resistor (or anything else) connected across it.

Does that explain why a 47kOhm resistor in parallel with a 100n cap is only reading 25 kOhms?

antonis

Quote from: awgearhart on July 16, 2020, 07:25:19 AM
Does that explain why a 47kOhm resistor in parallel with a 100n cap is only reading 25 kOhms?

Maybe yes, maybe no.. :icon_wink:

Part of DMM current, destinated for passing through resistor, leaks through discharged capacitor till it's charged up to meter probes voltage difference..
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bluebunny

Quote from: awgearhart on July 16, 2020, 07:25:19 AM
Does that explain why a 47kOhm resistor in parallel with a 100n cap is only reading 25 kOhms?

In general, any component while it's still in-circuit - is in parallel with everything else.  If you want to measure it, you need to take it out first (or lift a leg).
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awgearhart

Quote from: willienillie on July 16, 2020, 04:40:22 AM
Looking at the back of your board, you've got a number of cold and/or incomplete solder joints.  Also some excess that should be trimmed.

How can you tell if there's a cold/incomplete solder joint? To me everything looks okay...

Sorry in advance, I'm still new to this whole thing!!!

antonis

Quote from: awgearhart on July 16, 2020, 09:33:14 AM
How can you tell if there's a cold/incomplete solder joint?

For "there isn't", only by carefully desoldering & reflowing them..
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bluebunny

Quote from: awgearhart on July 16, 2020, 09:33:14 AM
How can you tell if there's a cold/incomplete solder joint? To me everything looks okay...

Find something else in your circuit that's supposed to be connected to the thing you're looking at.  Now use your DMM to measure continuity between those two components - be sure you measure at the component leads.  If there's no continuity, then there's a problem with the bit in between, i.e. one or other of the solder connections to those two components.
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ElectricDruid

+1

Haven't got anything to add except to say that these people are giving you good advice, awgearhart, and you'd be well advised to listen to them. Don't worry - these problems are not insoluble, and with a bit of help they can be fixed. Generally once you find the answer, you think "Gawd! It was so simple!" although it never feels like that that at the time.

awgearhart

I appreciate all the help!! I'm giving the circuit a break so I can get fresh eyes another time. Everyone here is so helpful! It can be very frustrating at times  :icon_biggrin: