Looking for male, panel mount jacks

Started by stallik, December 12, 2020, 06:40:58 PM

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stallik

Anyone know a source for panel mount male jacks a la early Dan Armstrong pedals?
I could do the job with female sockets then use couplers bit would rather not. All the jacks I have won't lend themselves to useful modification
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mth5044

I've seen 1/8" male pcb mounts, but never 1/4". I think I'd be concerned about the incredible amount of stress using such a thing would put on the pcb, without it secured to the enclosure? Looks like those vox headphone amps use molded plastic around the jack. Dan Armstrong things look like they are enclosure mount, not pcb, but hard to tell from the few pics I could see.

stallik

By panel mount, I mean attaching to the enclosure. I've ordered a couple of types of jack plug. It difficult to see from the pictures but I'm hoping that at least one style will have a body plate wider than the barel
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bluebunny

I salvaged a couple of mahoosive jack plugs a long time ago that were about 3/4" wide.  I wonder where they are?   ???

If I find them, they're yours.
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willienillie

You mean a 1/4" plug?

I'd just get a Switchcraft, and find a nut that threads on.  Should be imperial.  There's a bit of a lip that's a slightly larger diameter than the threaded portion, you'd have to size your hole just right.  Looks like maybe what E-H used back in the day:


iainpunk

what is the exact context?

going to build a guitar mount like the EHX vintage LPB1?
in that case, i'd recommend a belt clip to put on the guitar strap and a permanently attached 20cm piece of coax wire and a normal jack. this is a bit more durable since it minimizes stress on the jack.

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stallik

I've found an old Cliff 1/4 in jack and the lip is much wider than the thread so I've ordered a couple more on flea bay and hopefully can find nuts to fit them.

Exact context? I'm making a little box containing a delay circuit (Rebote) and a little booster to plug into the effects loop of my PA. there will be 3 such jacks - send, return & 9v in a triangle so the whole thing should be pretty self supporting. Enclosure will be a 1590G

Why? Get rid of all the cables, make life difficult trying to get the jacks to line up, give myself something to do. Running out of old failed circuits to fix or improve (delighted with a big b****d, model 1 driver and a may I? That have been hanging around for some years)
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davent

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Quote from: willienillie on December 13, 2020, 05:57:37 AM
You mean a 1/4" plug?

I'd just get a Switchcraft, and find a nut that threads on.  Should be imperial.  There's a bit of a lip that's a slightly larger diameter than the threaded portion, you'd have to size your hole just right.  Looks like maybe what E-H used back in the day:



The Switchcraft 380 looks to have decent shoulder on it and rather than trying to track down a 7/16"-20 nut i'd just slice off the threaded part of the housing and use that.

http://www.switchcraft.com/Drawings/380_CD.pdf

http://www.switchcraft.com/productsummary.aspx?Parent=70
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davent

Quote from: davent on December 13, 2020, 11:51:57 AM
Quote from: willienillie on December 13, 2020, 05:57:37 AM
You mean a 1/4" plug?

I'd just get a Switchcraft, and find a nut that threads on.  Should be imperial.  There's a bit of a lip that's a slightly larger diameter than the threaded portion, you'd have to size your hole just right.  Looks like maybe what E-H used back in the day:



The Switchcraft 380 looks to have decent shoulder on it and rather than trying to track down a 7/16"-20 nut i'd just slice off the threaded part of the housing and use that.

http://www.switchcraft.com/Drawings/380_CD.pdf

http://www.switchcraft.com/productsummary.aspx?Parent=70
dave

KMMK SPS5 looks to be an even better option for the hack, another is G&H stubby.



https://www.avshop.ca/wire-amp-cable/connectors/1-4-inch-connectors/kmmk-squareplug-sps5-1-4in-ts-connector-nickel?gclid=CjwKCAiAlNf-BRB_EiwA2osbxUYuc7xb2UgdWt7Xg24DWaaQDhQAkXUEim7dx4qlygMhKh7EKC-pQBoCdzAQAvD_BwE

4:52 into the video


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davent

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PRR

FWIW: the "male" part is not a jack but a plug.

A plug is something that blocks a hole
A jack is:
* one of four face cards in a deck bearing a picture of a young prince
* any of several fast-swimming predacious fishes of tropical to warm temperate seas
* male donkey
* an electrical device consisting of a connector socket designed for the insertion of a plug
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/plug
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This is MADE to hang-out with stress: 
https://www.amazon.com/Shure-A85F-Transformer-Female-4-Inch/dp/B0006NMUHW
Yes, $20 is a lot since you only want a part of the whole thing, but sarakisof might buy the transformer and XLR.
Take apart, desolder the 1/4" plug wires. Saw neatly several mm back from the butt-end of the 1/4 plug. There's not a lot of overhang so this may not hold-up in a soft metal box. Next try could be a 1/2" block of oak or maple, drilled for snugness on the 1/4" butt, and epoxied.
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stallik

I was clearly being lazy or too brief in my OP. I should have said Jack Plug which is what I've known it as since at school. I don't remember when I started abbreviating it but I clearly wasn't the only one. Now I've looked it up, seems I've abbreviated it to the most irrelevant word of the two.
https://mashedradish.com/2016/09/09/why-do-we-call-them-headphone-jacks/

Thanks for that link Paul, seems a proper way to do in but I want 3 so that prices it out of contention for this project. Nice to know they're about though
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willienillie

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Quote from: davent on December 13, 2020, 11:51:57 AM
i'd just slice off the threaded part of the housing and use that.

That would be a backup plan if I didn't have a nut that fit.  No wrench flats though.


Edit:  I was curious, and obviously a little bored.  Took about 2 minutes of digging through my tub of random hardware.  I think this may be been a Peavey jack nut at one time, but don't hold me to that.


davent

Kevin's in England, non-metric hardware may be rarer than panel mount plugs.
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stallik

Quote from: davent on December 13, 2020, 08:54:33 PM
Kevin's in England, non-metric hardware may be rarer than panel mount plugs.

Not as rare as you might think. My garage is full of nuts and bolts both imperial and metric. Just never the one I want.
Not sure it's ever changed but the screw threads holding cameras to tripods were always 1/4 whitworth. Even when every other thread on the camera was metric.

#willinillie - that almost identical to what I've ended up with :) just waiting for 2 more
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tzdvl

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Quote from: davent on December 13, 2020, 11:51:57 AM


The Switchcraft 380 looks to have decent shoulder on it and rather than trying to track down a 7/16"-20 nut i'd just slice off the threaded part of the housing and use that.

I've done this in the past.

If you have room, you can simply insert the threaded part of the plug into the case from the outside, solder the wires to the plug, and thread on the original outer barrel from the inside.

If no room for that, cut off the threaded part of the barrel with a hacksaw, smooth with a file, and use that for the "nut".  :icon_mrgreen:



Baz1984

Can't you just put a nut on the back of a normal male jack plug and mount it through a hole from the front of an enclosure... or am i just being dumb?