Losing signal through darlingtons (in Scrambler)

Started by mark2, December 29, 2020, 02:14:50 PM

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mark2

I have an 250/Dist+ overdrive going into a Scrambler, and I'm struggling to get a signal through Q1.

I tried an MMBTA14 and a BC517. I double checked the pin orientation (perhaps should triple check?).

I can hear a signal loud and clear going into the base, but nothing from the emitter.  Any advice on what to look for or what to change?

Update: Voltages are
C: 8.45V
E: 5mv
B: jumping around, often hovering around 200mV


iainpunk

you forgot the input cap.
should go in front of the two 1M resistors, after the volume control of the previous pedal

cheers, Iain
friendly reminder: all holes are positive and have negative weight, despite not being there.

cheers

antonis

"I'm getting older while being taught all the time" Solon the Athenian..
"I don't mind  being taught all the time but I do mind a lot getting old" Antonis the Thessalonian..

mark2

Quote from: antonis on December 29, 2020, 03:18:38 PM
Check for R11 very low value (4R7 or so..)  :icon_wink:
Unfortunately that wasn't the case. It's 4k7

Quote from: iainpunk on December 29, 2020, 02:47:20 PM
you forgot the input cap.

I didn't think I needed one, but will certainly add one on the next iteration. I just measured and there's only a tiny DC offset so I'd guess it's not related to this problem. Though of course worth fixing, thanks!

Any other ideas? This seems so odd to me.

antonis

Iain is right..!!  :icon_wink:
(my bad about R11..) :icon_redface:

LEVEL pot wiper-lug1 is effectively set in parallel with R10, dramatically lowering Base bias..
(even with pot set FCW, Base DC level is lower than Darlington VBE..)
"I'm getting older while being taught all the time" Solon the Athenian..
"I don't mind  being taught all the time but I do mind a lot getting old" Antonis the Thessalonian..

mark2

Thank you both. Sounds like I was too quick to assume it was an unrelated problem.

I'll clip that pot leg and stick a cap in there and see how it behaves, and report back.

iainpunk

QuoteQuote from: iainpunk on Today at 14:47:20
you forgot the input cap.

I didn't think I needed one, but will certainly add one on the next iteration. I just measured and there's only a tiny DC offset so I'd guess it's not related to this problem. Though of course worth fixing, thanks!
that is 100% the cause of the problem, i bet my whole salary of this year on that

cheers, Iain
friendly reminder: all holes are positive and have negative weight, despite not being there.

cheers

mark2

Quote from: iainpunk on December 29, 2020, 05:11:35 PM
that is 100% the cause of the problem

Thanks again! I should not have made assumptions that it was unrelated and will definitely fix it and see if it works (or more likely, what the next problem turns out to be  ;) )