Klon + ???, dual pedal suggestions.

[aefpv]

I tried combining a Klon and a Rat together in a dual pedal, but due to the high gain of both pedals, it is not working well. So, what should I combine with the Klon?  A compressor, EQ, etc?

There is only a few requirements:
1.  The circuit needs 3 pots. I want to use the box that I have already drilled. It is a SmallBear Bare box #2
2.  I would prefer that there is a PCB that I can purchase/use. The space in the pedal is limited, and the pre-made PCBs are usually smaller. 

Thanks for the suggestions!

[r080]

Lately, I have been using a Cornish G2 into a Klone. The G2 is probably just as high gain as a Rat, but I like the combination.

[eh la bas ma]

I understand that you look for something that could use a mid frequencies boost ?  I'm not sure if you want to boost something with the Klon or feed the Klon with an other circuit.

I tried a Klon before a fuzz (BM violet's ram's head clone), I don't get much more than what i have with a good old volume boost.

Maybe some Marshall style stompbox, for exemple. Some JCM-800 emulation, like JHS angry charlie, works great with a Klon.

I like to use a Morning Glory clone before the Angry Charles (from pedalpcb), to get a mid boost. It sounds better for this job in my opinion, and I get better results than with the Klon clone when I try to place the circuit last in the chain and boost it.

I don't like the tone control on Klon circuits, either there is too much mids, or not enough, I can't find any good spot through the whole rotation.
So an EQ could be nice, but your Klon would lose its own character...and I don't think this circuit is really interesting this way.

In my opinion, if you don't drive a tube amp or try to "cut through the mix" on stage, it needs to be stacked with at least an other light overdrive pedal or a distortion. On its own it doesn't sound good enough for my taste. The gain texture has nothing special (it's supposed to be "transparent"), it's all about the mids, and in most situations, it sounds better before an other circuit than after. That's how I see it...

My suggestion : https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/angrycharles/   (you'll need to drill two more holes)

Any "dark" overdrive, distortion or "amp in a box" circuit will do after a Klon, am I wrong ?

What is your favourite dark distortion ?

Edit: Maybe with an OCD ? I didn't try but it could be interesting.

Edit 2 : maybe a pre-Eq wouldn't hurt : usually the last pedal gives most of  its tonal character to the sound. If the EQ is first in the chain, the Klon flavor should still be there.

[stallik]

I've recently discovered the delights of a Klon into a MojoMojo. Appreciate the latter is not diy but it's on offer (in the UK) making it cheaper than a home build. Amazingly dynamic, transparent and not too compressed.

[aefpv]

This are all great suggestions!  I also realized that I have a Clapton mid boost circuit lying around (somewhere). Would you all place it before or after the Klon?  Would you all add a blending circuit/knob?

[eh la bas ma]

This are all great suggestions!  I also realized that I have a Clapton mid boost circuit lying around (somewhere). Would you all place it before or after the Klon?  Would you all add a blending circuit/knob?

A circuit boosting medium frequencies (designed to be put inside a guitar) before or after an other circuit wich already has a significant mids hump ?

Sounds redundant to me... I hope you like mids, for me it's like the guitar sings only through its nose. The nasal voice is not my cup of tea, but that's just an opinion...

Unless you already have two or three Klons, I humbly doubt that it is the best choice for a dual pedal : I 'd say it's more convenient to be able to move it like a piece of a jigsaw puzzle, and keep every options open.

I suggest that you wait and see what circuits you always use together when you are playing, and then do a dual pedal. That way you won't be desappointed, and it will save space on your pedalboard . Isn't space the whole point when we build dual pedals ?

[kaycee]

I'm not a fan of stacking gain pedals. My vote would be a compressor, the classic dynacomp type, choose your favourite mod for the extra pot.

[Steben]

I'm not a fan of stacking gain pedals. My vote would be a compressor, the classic dynacomp type, choose your favourite mod for the extra pot.

I agree ... at least in one pedal.
A classic TS/SD/ etc .... style of circuit in front of a distortion/clipper to ground works for me.