Devi ever white spider need help

Started by Bendoom, February 13, 2023, 09:25:05 AM

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Bendoom

Hi
i'm trying to make a devi ever white spider by putting together the torn's reaper and the love punch.
i did this one for the love punch but got no sound at all from it.
I used my probe to debug and all the blue circles are mute. So the bottom ones are grounded i guess but not sure the 10k should be silent.
thanks for the help (sorry for my english i'm french)



GibsonGM

Hi Ben, Welcome!  Can you post the schematics or other materials that you worked from?   

So to be clear, you are only trying to debug the Punch Love that you show in the photo?

Can you post a photograph of your build, showing both the front and back sides, and any jacks and switches?



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Bendoom

Exactly and Maybe will need help to make it work together with the torn s peaker.
Thanks for the help. Here are some pics and i used this layout i posted on my previous comment.














antonis

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anotherjim

I know these are often oddball designs, but is the Emitter of Q3 meant to connect to anything?
A Schematic would be helpful.

antonis

Quote from: anotherjim on February 13, 2023, 05:01:32 PM
I know these are often oddball designs, but is the Emitter of Q3 meant to connect to anything?

I think it was intended for Q3 Collector to be left open and B-E junction implemented as Q1 feedback diode..
(so Q3 should be flipped 180o)

edit: wrong guess.. :icon_redface:

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duck_arse

#6
here's a little game called 'spot the difference!' everyone can play!



I don't understand the translation. it is more common to mirror the whole layout left-right rather than just [?] the transistors. but welcome to the forum and thanks for the new game.

oh, and I've just noticed you have all 100nF. not a 10nF in sight as per the layout dia.

[edit :] no, I've got to stop looking at the comparison, it's just confusing me more and more .......
" I will say no more "

antonis

Quote from: duck_arse on February 14, 2023, 08:17:04 AM
no, I've got to stop looking at the comparison, it's just confusing me more and more .......

Well said..!! :icon_wink:
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Bendoom

Thanks all for your replies! Will check all that. Its a first one for me with the veroboard. I usually do the pcb transfert image with effects layouts and works fine. But this is quite challenging and seems to be more difficult to building cause mistakes can be easily made.

I could just mirror the image to match with the layout. You are right 😆

Again scuse my english and comprehension.


Bendoom

ok i made the circuit again and its working but i v got a loose of sound when playing. what can it be? transistors?

duck_arse

loss of sound? low volume?

if you've rebuilt it, you need to post new photos. and voltages on the transistor pins, please.
" I will say no more "

aelling

The White Spider actually consists of an 05 Punch Love (I think later version made the 05 Punch Hate and 25 the Punch Love) going into a Torn's Peaker with an oscillation switch. The LP is not the 05, the 05 is a single MPSA18 transistor treble booster while the LP is a gated overdrive/fuzz (can't remember). The WS only has one potentiometer for the 05, but I don't know if it's the pregain or the volume, you could just keep both.

Here's a layout I drew for the 05.


Bendoom

oh man thank you so much!

i will do this one then!

Bendoom

so how do i do to put both circuits together? sorry about that question but what is an oscillation switch?

Bendoom

Quote from: aelling on February 16, 2023, 02:51:02 PM
The White Spider actually consists of an 05 Punch Love (I think later version made the 05 Punch Hate and 25 the Punch Love) going into a Torn's Peaker with an oscillation switch. The LP is not the 05, the 05 is a single MPSA18 transistor treble booster while the LP is a gated overdrive/fuzz (can't remember). The WS only has one potentiometer for the 05, but I don't know if it's the pregain or the volume, you could just keep both.

Here's a layout I drew for the 05.




oh i just did it and first try! thanks mate. Hope to be able to put both together with no issues!

and will try to make the previous lp circuit to work properly.

You all rocks guys. Happy to have ask for your help.  :icon_biggrin: