Breadboard vs Veroboard layout

[Tobyk]

It's just a not very elegant way to do things

You know what an elegant way to do things is? Proper PCBs.

They might be elegant, but I never liked pcb's, to me they are too modern/sterile looking and lacks the human touch

[FiveseveN]

I'm afraid no amount of education on current return paths and loop areas can cure than affliction, but I'd suggest you give it a try anyway.

[Phend]

For me, one of the few high volume manufacturers, I don't give a hoot what it looks like, just as long as it is solid and works. Although I try my best to make it presentable without pcbs. Also some of the point to point jobs shown on this site are very cool. But if you are in the business and plan on making a profit, then of course pcbs. Ps, a clear box might be something to show the inside  And the human touch.

But on the other hand,  IF you design your Own pcb and Make it Yourself then you have gone the Extra Mile in DIY , kudos,  I like it.

[ElectricDruid]

It's just a not very elegant way to do things

You know what an elegant way to do things is? Proper PCBs.

They might be elegant, but I never liked pcb's, to me they are too modern/sterile looking and lacks the human touch

That suggests to me that you were born after the age of PCBs made with tape on acetate sheets. The curving tracks and quirky details you get on those are anything but sterile and very definitely have the human touch. It's not the PCB's themselves, but how you make them...

Presumably such a design would be possible with modern software (I know that Diptrace that I use could do it) but it would be extremely time consuming. Whether more or less than doing it with tape, I can't say...that's not an experiment I'm inclined to perform!

[Matthew Sanford]

You could always just use copper tape across thin cardboard for that human touch!

But then I'm all for PCBs, if you design it then it definitely has human touch, and if it's wrong enough it might have what you're looking for! Then again, you do you - more time to build, less time waiting to build.

Hey, you could sharpie and etch a PCB for a very human touch, always an option.

[Tobyk]

You could always just use copper tape across thin cardboard for that human touch!

But then I'm all for PCBs, if you design it then it definitely has human touch, and if it's wrong enough it might have what you're looking for! Then again, you do you - more time to build, less time waiting to build.

Hey, you could sharpie and etch a PCB for a very human touch, always an option.

I come from the amp world, where turret boards and PTP still is the shit, and PCBs are frowned upon. In the pedal world it's much more accepted and standard for obvious reasons (space saving and historic).
I've never seen hand drawn PCBs, but I actually like the concept of doing them in some artistic way, might be worth pursuing. Thanks all!

[Focalized]

Artistic PCBs

https://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?t=7781

[FiveseveN]

I come from the amp world, where turret boards and PTP still is the shit, and PCBs are frowned upon.

Tube hipsters stuck in 1970 is not "the amp world". Ask L-acoustics, Meyer, Cown, Lab Gruppen, QSC, Powersoft or d&b if "PCBs are frowned upon". Or even Randall Smith.

[Phend]

"You could always just use copper tape across thin cardboard for that human touch!"
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Hum... wonder how that would work on plexiglass ?

[Focalized]

Get some of this and wrap it around a hotdog. Organic of course.

[duck_arse]

At the request of Mr. duck arse, I had my tubescreamer board framed and hung in the local museum for posterity 

[davent]

Was it 'commonsound'/4ms - 'noise swash' etc. that instructed you to glue a printout of the layout to a piece of cardboard for your 'pcb'? Poke the parts leads through they're appropriate spot on the printout then twist the mating leads together on the backside and solder it up?

[PRR]

> I've never seen hand drawn PCBs

Functional hand-drawn PCBs of the 60s and 70s.











And more like that in the Electronics Experimenters & Hoobbyist Handboosk:
https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Popular-Electronics-Guide.htm

[287m]

They might be elegant, but I never liked pcb's, to me they are too modern/sterile looking and lacks the human touch

Want more human touch? Perfboard and/or cordwood then.
You can build vero style on perfboard too.

[amptramp]

Some people like tape-on-plexiglass:



I don't see any pictures, but some people use free air soldering of components in three dimensions with a resin pour protecting everything.  There are probably some pictures on this site, but I haven't found them.

[davent]

I don't see any pictures, but some people use free air soldering of components in three dimensions with a resin pour protecting everything.  There are probably some pictures on this site, but I haven't found them.

Not a pedal but what you describe.

https://makezine.com/article/home/fun-games/the-most-beautiful-homemade-device-ive-ever-seen/

[Phend]

"Some people like tape-on-plexiglass."
Yup, used copper foil tape, stuff for stained glass making.
Laser raster track outlines for a glow effect and tape guides.
Yup, they work well in a man cave, not a main stage.
Just another wacky fun palette to paint on.

[Tobyk]

I come from the amp world, where turret boards and PTP still is the shit, and PCBs are frowned upon.

Tube hipsters stuck in 1970 is not "the amp world". Ask L-acoustics, Meyer, Cown, Lab Gruppen, QSC, Powersoft or d&b if "PCBs are frowned upon". Or even Randall Smith.

I knew i would get that kind of comment, and of course amp people are using pcb's too

> I've never seen hand drawn PCBs

Functional hand-drawn PCBs of the 60s and 70s.











And more like that in the Electronics Experimenters & Hoobbyist Handboosk:
https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Popular-Electronics-Guide.htm

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Cool, thanks