i don't really know what to say . . .

Started by sfr, November 18, 2003, 10:09:28 PM

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sfr

but I found this interesting . . .

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/quantum_life_symphony.htm

How can you write a sentence like " . . .  Nonetheless, Quantum Products has forged ahead in spite of the absence of any directly supporting documentation . . "

That better be some serious mojo for what seems to amount to a 300 dollar box with an LED.  But then again, maybe I'm being overly skeptical . . .
sent from my orbital space station.

ExpAnonColin

If it seriously IS a sort of revolution in audio physics, then all power to them, but  :? ... maybe they should have applied it in a less heightened and more useful way.

-Colin

Jason Stout

Jason Stout

Peter Snowberg

Just more proof and an audiophool and his money are easily separable.


Anybody who buys one should be forced to listen to Geraldo Rivera sing showtunes for at least 96 hours continously as punishment.

-Peter
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BillyJ

Love it!  Didn't even read it past the first paragraph but I love it.
I am going to make a compressor that is nothing but two jacks connected and a switch that turns on an led.
I am going to claim it the clearest truest most transparent compressor ever know to mankind.
If anyone opens it and claims different I can fall back on the whole thing about the space within the box dirceting electrons in a reversed rear thrust causes the forward nessles of the kazinkaboink to qerbablulate upon re-entery of the squidget causeing the note gnomes who's job it is to carry sound inside of circuits into a free formed stream of jizzswizzle that makes you feel better and look younger while at the same time making you sound like you never have before.
All thanks to the magic light on the top! WOW!
I am going to make MILLIONS!!!

Oh don't think so?

Did I mention it is made with carbon monoxide free copper?


Seriously tho I am going to build this to @#$% with my friends who think they are all ears.  :lol:

downweverything

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Fell off my chair from laughing so hard.  The best is that it runs off a wall wart which pretty much isolates the box from the environment electronically.  They are right the entire notion of this box defys the laws of classical physics, thing is im pretty sure it defies the laws of quantum physics as well.  Schroedenger and his kittens are having a good laugh right now.

Peter Snowberg

Quantum mechanics is such old hat now.... the audio world needs something new.

Just wait until I release my new guitar based on string theory.  :lol:

-Peter
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Tobias Karlsson

Ha ha ha, very funny :D  :D , even more funny because you could just do that and still many people would think that it's soooo cool 8)

Tobias Karlsson in Sweden

ps I always make my Fuzz Faces with wires from Motorola radios pre 69, sounds much better 8)


Quote from: BillyJLove it!  Didn't even read it past the first paragraph but I love it.
I am going to make a compressor that is nothing but two jacks connected and a switch that turns on an led.
I am going to claim it the clearest truest most transparent compressor ever know to mankind.
If anyone opens it and claims different I can fall back on the whole thing about the space within the box dirceting electrons in a reversed rear thrust causes the forward nessles of the kazinkaboink to qerbablulate upon re-entery of the squidget causeing the note gnomes who's job it is to carry sound inside of circuits into a free formed stream of jizzswizzle that makes you feel better and look younger while at the same time making you sound like you never have before.
All thanks to the magic light on the top! WOW!
I am going to make MILLIONS!!!

Oh don't think so?

Did I mention it is made with carbon monoxide free copper?


Seriously tho I am going to build this to @#$% with my friends who think they are all ears.  :lol:
Tobias Karlsson

smoguzbenjamin

I could sell a box for $300... think of all the stompboxes I could make.... :roll:
I don't like Holland. Nobody has the transistors I want.

Doug H

Cripes... Just reading the specs of the reviewer's stereo made me realize this is a whole dimension of reality I will never have to (nor want to) deal with...

Doug

David

Man!  I wish I had the chutzpah to hype something like this without choking on my own tongue!  Talk about selling snake oil...

smoguzbenjamin

You know, if their theory works (I haven't read it), I think that I might as well go to www.magicalspells.com or whatever and look up a spell for cleansing my house or whatnot. It'd be a cheaper way of doing it!



what rubbish......
I don't like Holland. Nobody has the transistors I want.

Mark Hammer

I'm as skeptical as the next person, maybe even moreso sometimes.  Presented with this article 20 years ago, I would have shaken my head, snickered, mumbled "Friggin morons" and moved on.

Stop for a moment, though, and consider exactly how many sources of high frequency noise and transmission signals exist in your home or typical listening milieu.  Let's list them:

- all those transmitters from the proliferation of radio and tv stations in the past 30 years
- transmitters from every sort of non-commercial band, including those used by all the various public utilities and security services
- all those wireless and cellular phones used by everyone
- all the TVs, wireless remotes, and computers in your home
- all the digital devices you have, including CD players, game systems, computers, programmable stoves and microwave ovens

The list goes on and on.  The possibility that this high frequency inundation MIGHT have an effect on full bandwidth audio is not unreasonable, particularly given the quality of audio available today and the increased opportunity for perturbations in audio signal to be detectable.  I'm not saying they do, or that I even have any understanding of how they might.  I only know they weren't there to the same degree 30 years ago in a predigital era.  While at first glance, a box you don't even connect to your audio system might seem like lunatic ravings or the claims of a huckster, the notion that our contemporary listening environment is akin to being in a cabin on Baffin Island is just as misguided and unrealistic.

I'm not saying I am easily persuaded by the technical commentary in the article.  Indeed, it is far from persuasive.  On the other hand, few of us would have been persuaded by arguments about cable capacitance back in the days of 20ft curly cables, and our standards for what constitutes decent quality audio signal have changed considerably since the 60's.

There ARE subtle effects, and as much as Floyd Toole's classic paper in JAES on the requirements for true blind A/B testing of speakers occupies a hallowed place in my binders, I am aware that there are plenty of times when one is taken aback by such subtle effects.  When I bought my first stereo imaging device (Omnisonic) in 1983 or so, it was the sort of thing you'd turn on and go "I don't hear it",  and when you turned it off after 10 minutes your first reaction was "Wait a sec, what just happened?  Where'd the music go?".  Such things exist, and you don't need to be a "golden ears" to hear them.

Yes, there is a wacko crowd that can "hear" anything that audio gurus utter their benedictions over, and I'm pretty certain the $300+ will remain in my pockets for the forseeable future, but I would not be all that quick to dismiss it out of hand.  That being said, someone is going to have to do a lot more to explain to me what is supposed to be going on and why this thing is doing what they think it is doing.

RDV

Yeah...O-Tay...but how will my White Stripes CD sound through it? huh? :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Mark Hammer


Ansil

makes toenails smile, sounds like god talking  and it will even play your guitar for you!!!

afranks

Has anyone read that crap about the Tice Clock?  Someone where I work told me about that and I'm still laughing.  Do a google search for "tice clock audiophile".  Wow.

-alan

Peter Snowberg

That's just frightening.  :cry:

QuoteThen it hit meâ€"one formerly filled plug was empty. At John Bicht's insistence, I'd plugged the control unit directly into one of my dedicated wall sockets, which left vacant a socket in the Power Block. But that wall socket hadn't been empty when I started: a Tice TPT clock used to be plugged in there. In fact, it had been there for a long time. Though I hadn't heard any change when I put it in, I'd simply left it there. I reconnected the control unit to the Power Block and plugged the clock back into the wall. After a half hour or so, the harshness vanished.

When I'd first done a series of A/B tests with and without the clock, I hadn't heard any differences. However, I'd left the clock plugged in for a long time. Obviously I'd become accustomed to what the clock did, but remained consciously unaware of its effects, never noticing them until the clock was removed and the modified Versa's lowered noise floor made the disappearance of the clock's relatively modest improvements more audible. Once this improvement was taken away, a very slight harshness crept back into my system. Reinstating the clock removed the harshness. Much to my surprise, the TPT-treated clock did have a positive effect in my system. It's back in and staying in.â€"Jack English

Now the kicker.... The "clock" is just that. A RadioShack clock in a different package with the price raised by 14 times!
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Hal

"We employ principles of physics and quantum theory to approach the problem of electromagnetic noise"

now, I mean, I've only finished the first quarter of my physics class, so maybe I should "believe the expert," but doesn't quantum theory describe the movements of electrons around the atom, saying that they move in specific energy levels, or "quanta"?  And electrisity is the study of free electrons....so therefore... ?

aah, such crap!

But even though this description is crap, power conditioning isn't...its a lot more than a simple LED...its pretty crazy I think ?

Joe Davisson

I believe the Blackfire guitar pedal will have the same effect of improving audio and video throughout your whole household.

I've studied this and it turns out that the circuit self-oscillates in the Quantum Vector, producing Super-Quantum Alpha Tachyons within the Tetrahedral Electron Mobius of the Hammond enclosure. (Just happens to be the right alloy). In fact, the tetrahedral tachyon alignment is analogous to the cardboard pyramid that is well-known to sharpen razor blades -- thus "sharpening" the quality of anything in the room, even your picking accuracy or pickup lines! (great stocking stuffer too...)

Gads.