Adhesive for wah rocker rubber mat?

Started by BillyJ, May 22, 2004, 04:52:40 PM

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BillyJ

The rubber mat on one of my wahs is lifting away.
ANyone know of something really strong that won't be lumpy?
I tried to find some double sided tape localy but it is either to thick or not strong enough.
I was thinking of giving this stuff a try:
http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536892093&prodBlockOID=536971053
Thought I woudl check in here before I tossed good money after bad.
Thanks!

SoundTech

Go to your local hardware store, and spend about $5 on some good contact cement, like this:

http://www.dap.com/retail/retail_detail.cfm?catid=28&subcatid=102&prodhdrid=47

You can use it to touch up spots where the mat is coming loose, or, if you can carefully remove the whole tread without ruining it, I'd pull it, clean off the old adhesive with some solvent, and re-attach the tread with fresh contact cement.  Done it before.  Worked well.
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jimbob

Is that stuff strong enough for glueing metal to metal?
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petemoore

You could try some good epoxy.  MEssy.
 Test them first to see which one gets more pull, using a car mat and some similar chromey metal.
 Temperature expansion of the different materials and how much they get pulled on...
 It looks like cement was originall used. Nice thing about this is that it doesn't really dry and stays pliable, very sticky/I gess the good stuff is what you want.
 Last resorts/ Drilled holes around the circumferance, and gap filling epoxy would have a physical place to grab. I've done trim work where you take a tack, cut it just long enough so it goes into the epoxy, but not so long as to touch the base surface [in this wouldd be case, chrome]...epoxy grabs metal, [clean that with nail pollish and maybe sctratch it up for grip], grabs metal and pin of tack, tack head pins the trimpiece. ...
 Replace it with Finished walnut and through screw and nut it to the plate...
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Quote from: jimbobIs that stuff strong enough for glueing metal to metal?
Whether any adhesive is 'strong' enough, depends on the force applied across the joint, divided by the area of the joint.
So if you have say one piece of metal stuck flat to another, that is a LOT easier than trying to put a couple of bits end to end.
And the other thing is, some adhesives are designed to flex & some are about as brittle as glass. Epoxy types aren't always the best.
And of course, gluing is like soldering & painting.. surface prep is absolutely vital.

RedHouse

Soundtech got it right.

Use contact cement, lift the rubber mat off completely, clean the area of old cement, apply new cement to both surfaces, wait a few minutes and attach the mat. It will stay nearly forever.

Be sure you place the mat correctly, the contact cement will stick at first contact.
(no repositioning without disolving the cement with MEK)

BillyJ

QuoteSoundtech got it right
Agreed. Worked wonderfully!!!
Thanks SoundTech!

SoundTech

Quote from: jimbobIs that stuff strong enough for glueing metal to metal?

No, but it's perfect for gluing a relatively thin piece of rubber on top of a painted metal surface.  For metal to metal, obviously welding is the best option.  If you want to go the adhesive type rout for metal to metal, try some JB Weld, or any 2 part epoxy meant for adhering metal.  It'll mention on the label if it's meant for metal or some other material.
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