PLEASE check this layout....

[Dragonfly]

I've been playing with stripboard layouts tonight...can you guys please check this silicon Fuzz Face layout to make sure its correct? I realize i could make it slightly smaller by cutting another trace or two and/or standing some resistors up, but i'm going for "simplicity". I've posted the schematic below the layout for easy reference. (the schematic is from Banzaii Effects, who has some GREAT prices on parts and hand matched germanium transistors !)

Thanks in advance,
 Andy
 Dragonfly FX

[Marcos - Munky]

Looks right to me. I didn't checked the resistor values.

[petemoore]

You sure make it look easy...
 Counting 1/2/3 is easier than trying to stay on 'line e' of a perfboard then count 8/9/10...very easy to get lost toward the center of the board when debugging.
 I'm better at mapping perf or finding a place on the 'perfmap', which I usually make as I go...but these parallel lines are certainly easier looking to read, than a sea of perfdots.

[B Tremblay]

Nearly every FF-based circuit can benefit from using a 10k or 25k trimpot in place of the standard 8k2 resistor.

[Dragonfly]

Nearly every FF-based circuit can benefit from using a 10k or 25k trimpot in place of the standard 8k2 resistor.

i thought about that, but had decided not to include it for "eases" sake...maybe i should rethink it?

i'm VERY open to suggestions.

BTW..i'm thinking of starting a "beginner oriented" website that JUST deals with stripboard layouts like this one...i have several layouts done already. That way, if someone "isn't" interested in becoming an EE, they can still build effects to suit their particular tonal needs...kind of a Run Off Groove for beginners...any thoughts?

[smashinator]

BTW..i'm thinking of starting a "beginner oriented" website that JUST deals with stripboard layouts like this one...i have several layouts done already. That way, if someone "isn't" interested in becoming an EE, they can still build effects to suit their particular tonal needs...kind of a Run Off Groove for beginners...any thoughts?

That would be pretty neat.  I've perfed a several projects, and looking at the stripboard layouts posted recently made me think "god, I could have built those fuzz faces a whole lot faster on stripboard."

[B Tremblay]

i thought about that, but had decided not to include it for "eases" sake...maybe i should rethink it?

For a novice, a fixed resistor may be easier than a trimpot, but it may prevent some frustration later on.  A person build their FF using the 8k2 resistor, then find out that it sounds ugly due to Q2 being mis-biased.  Then they come to the forum and ask what to do, with the consensus being "use a trimmer."

BTW..i'm thinking of starting a "beginner oriented" website that JUST deals with stripboard layouts like this one...i have several layouts done already. That way, if someone "isn't" interested in becoming an EE, they can still build effects to suit their particular tonal needs...kind of a Run Off Groove for beginners...any thoughts?

Feel free to create a site with stripboard layouts for runoffgroove.com circuits, but I don't think that using pad-per-hole perfboard should be viewed as requiring "advanced EE-level skills."  The prime directive at runoffgroove.com has always been to share circuits that can satisfy a DIY veteran while still accessible to beginners.

My concern is that some builders may see no need for learning how to read a schematic when presented with a stripboard/wiring layout for a circuit.

[vanhansen]

My concern is that some builders may see no need for learning how to read a schematic when presented with a stripboard/wiring layout for a circuit.

I have to agree here.  Learning to read schematics is important in this stuff, as I have found out.  I've been doing this for only a few months and I taught myself how to read schematics with the help of everyone here.  Now, I'm off doing a schematic of my own amp emulator (which is almost complete).  Once you can read them, you can do so much more.

Just my .03 cents (everyone puts on .02, I'll throw that extra one in for free   ).

[black mariah]

My concern is that some builders may see no need for learning how to read a schematic when presented with a stripboard/wiring layout for a circuit.

I wouldn't worry about that too much. If you stick around long enough, you learn to read schematics. There's simply no way around it. What is a layout diagram if not just a schematic with different symbols?

I'd love to see a  site for stripboard layouts. Anything that makes the barrier of entry lower is a GOOD thing.

[Dragonfly]

i thought about that, but had decided not to include it for "eases" sake...maybe i should rethink it?

For a novice, a fixed resistor may be easier than a trimpot, but it may prevent some frustration later on.  A person build their FF using the 8k2 resistor, then find out that it sounds ugly due to Q2 being mis-biased.  Then they come to the forum and ask what to do, with the consensus being "use a trimmer."

BTW..i'm thinking of starting a "beginner oriented" website that JUST deals with stripboard layouts like this one...i have several layouts done already. That way, if someone "isn't" interested in becoming an EE, they can still build effects to suit their particular tonal needs...kind of a Run Off Groove for beginners...any thoughts?

Feel free to create a site with stripboard layouts for runoffgroove.com circuits, but I don't think that using pad-per-hole perfboard should be viewed as requiring "advanced EE-level skills."  The prime directive at runoffgroove.com has always been to share circuits that can satisfy a DIY veteran while still accessible to beginners.

My concern is that some builders may see no need for learning how to read a schematic when presented with a stripboard/wiring layout for a circuit.

i'll be sure to link anything from Run Off Groove, so that people can see where to go for further ideas, info, etc...

i certainly am not trying to insinuate that ROG requires someone to be an EE...quite the opposite in fact...its one of the sites that inspired ME to learn to build fx pedals  ...however, i "do" feel that vero/stripboard is far less intimidating to a beginner than perfboard, due to having less soldering, and a more easily understandable "linear" layout. its also WAY easier to debug, should there be a problem.

i also believe, such as in my case, if people have SUCCESS at making working pedals, than they'll continue seeking knowledge and want to build new projects. THEN they'll start trying to understand shematics, bias, etc, etc....and can move on to designing and building more "in depth" projects.

[Dragonfly]

Anything that makes the barrier of entry lower is a GOOD thing.

thats my thought....SUCCESS breeds INTEREST, and once a beginner finds some success, he/she will "move on" to more advanced projects, which will require someone to read shematics, learn to bias, etc.

To be honest, when a beginner goes to many of these DIY FX pages, they get intimidated as hell...all the schematics, theory, etc, scare 'em off (at least thats "my" opinion)...BUT...if they could go to a website that showed them an EASY way to build a few projects and have some success, they wouldnt be as intimidated.