Making a 9V Pedal 18V

Started by WJR, January 02, 2005, 03:30:56 PM

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WJR

Hi,

I am interested in putting an internal transformer in a circuit to change the input voltage from 9 to 18V to give it more headroom. Do i need to change anything on the circuit board ie double resistance values to cope with this double voltage, or do i just have to check for example that all parts like capacitors for example have been rated for usage over 18V>

Any help appreciated,

Cheers,

Will
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MartyMart

The reisitors will be fine, just make sure your caps are rated a bit higher, I would use 35v electro/tants and lots of poly caps are 50-63vrange  anyway, MMK  AVX etc.
Double check any op-amp ratings as well and you're good to go.

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WJR

Cheers mate, my 350V caps should do fine then hehe
TQUK

toneman

Doubling the V will *not* change the gain of an opamp.
Gain 4 an OA is set by the resistors in the neg feedback loop.
If it's "just" trannys,  U might have to adjust /rebias.
I would use an adj pwr sup & raise the V in steps,
while feeding a signal in.
U might want 2 watch 2 Cwhat the new current draw is.  
An adj, regged pwr sup would allow this.
A scope & sig gen would B what  I would use....
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WJR

Ok, now you have turned what was meant to be a simple thing into a whole new complication. I cant find any information anywhere on the web on how to bias a tranny - can anyone help me ?
TQUK

MartyMart

Have a read of some projects at www.runoffgroove.com
Lots of their transistor circuits, like the "Odie" and "English Channel" are biased, with resistors to run at 4.5 v at the "Drain" of the transistor eg on a J201, and you will have to make some adjustments to those resistor values if you want to run the pedal on an 18v supply !
If you need some detail, just do a "biasing transistors" type of search, you'll find a lot of posts and some more answers too.

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Paul Marossy

One thing to keep in mind is that although you may increase headroom by running it on 18V vs. 9V, the noise floor may also significantly increase, too. Depends a lot on the type of circuit.

Mike Burgundy

Don't be offended, but just to be sure: this pedal has AC power, not a battery right?

Paul Marossy

Quotejust to be sure: this pedal has AC power, not a battery right?

Oh yes, good point. An internal AC transformer would need a rectifier and filter caps if the circuit in question runs off of a DC voltage...