Laser printers

[Karmasound]

Is there a certain DPI you have to have to do transfers?

Would 600x600 work?

[Outlaws]

Is there a certain DPI you have to have to do transfers?

Would 600x600 work?

600x600?

Is that the image size you have or the printers output?

[Karmasound]

600x600 dpi

[Outlaws]

600x600 dpi

So the printer can print that?

Then that is fine for most things.  Just make sure your image is about 300dpi.  If its 72 or 96dpi, then you won't be getting much more than blocky looking stuff.

[Karmasound]

These are the two i've been looking at


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=28-112-022&depa=10


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=28-104-266&depa=10

[Outlaws]

Lasers can be nice, but in all honesty, an ink jet might better suit you.  Most transfers if I recall are for injet.  Laser printer toner isn't the best stuff in the world IMO until you get into a some higher end stuff.  I own both an ink jet and a B&W laser, the inkjet gets more use.

A good inkjet can be had for about $150.  I wouldn't trust a Laser printer that is $100.  Infact, to replace the toner in my laser would cost more than that whole printer.  lol

[Edward]

Just one thing, Rule of thumb: The cheaper the printer, the more expensive it is to run (mantanince, ink etc). After about a year, suddenly that "cheap" printer is no longer cheap

[Karmasound]

Now i'm confused. I thought you had to use a laser printer to use the PNP Blue transfers?

[Outlaws]

Now i'm confused. I thought you had to use a laser printer to use the PNP Blue transfers?

In that case then you might want to get it.  GO buy a package of the PNP and read the back.  Then buy the printer based off of that - since that seems to be what the printer will be used the most for.

[Karmasound]

I thought it was laser.Maybe someone will confim this.


I'm really only going to use it for transfers and small amounts of graphix
so the cartridge shoulds last along time. I'll use my inkjet for text and other stuff.

[Ed G.]

It has to be either laser printer or copier. The toner is what resists the acid. Ink won't.

[scottosan]

Laserjet is the way to go.  Inkjets are about 10 times the cost per page to print also.

[j0shua]

Ed G.
It has to be either laser printer or copier. The toner is what resists the acid. Ink won't.

Laser printers and Inkjet printers work 100% perfect ....

i made many Pcb using injet printer and xerografic paper PNP Blue is expensive in some cases, and simple white paper can work very well...

and yes you can use 600 DPI resolution to print the PCB on PNP Blue or Transparency paper ........

[hairyandy]

I've got a Samsung ML-1740 and it's great.  It's much cheaper on toner than my Epson inkjet is on ink.  Sometimes it'll start printing lighter in spots and I have to take the toner cartridge out and shake it a bit to get it to print clean again.  That's just a Laser thing though as it used to happen to my old HP as well.

For graphics, lately I've been doing a layout that crams as many things as possible onto a page and then taking that Illustrator file to Kinko's to print out on their color Lasers.  It's only $.89/page and I can get six 1590B full-face layouts on a page along with all of the side labeling.  So far it's the best looking and most cost effective way I've found to make boxes look good.

[mojotron]

i made many Pcb using injet printer and xerografic paper ...

I wonder how you are etching your boards? As well as tranfering the image?

I use an HP3150 - w/micro-fine toner it workes great for making boards.

[rubberlips]

I've had a panasonic KX-P6100 for a couple of years now and only just had to get a toner replacement cartridge. The printer iself a few years back was from memory $400 aust and the toner replacement was about $50.
Never had any problems with it yet (touch wood).

I've only just started trying PCBs with it, however I tried printing on the back of sticky labels because it was the only paper I had around at the time. It worked - sort of - left a bit of paper still on the boards and some of the toner didn't stick. But I just went over it with an etch resist pen and all's well.
I'm going to get myself some overhead projector sheets and see how that works - the ones I printed last time I forgot to flip them...so they're on the wrong side

Pete

[SolderBoy]

you can get overhead projector sheets for inkjets too.  Quite expensive, though.  I haven't tried them for printing UV masks, but the other night I printed a colour label in reverse, then used clear spray adheasive to stick it ink-side down to a piece of white plastic.  Colour, glossy, durable stompbox label!

I have access to laser printers and photocopiers at work, so I bought my new inkjet without a 2nd thought.

[rubberlips]

bit hard to get clear slicky labels for inkjet here in australia - lasers fine, but not for inkjet  - you'd think they'd make more for injet because more people would have one?? sales people...

Pete

[j0shua]

dear mate mojotron:


It's simple to use inkjet printer to make PCB's  here is the info

just print your circuit into a normal white paper after that just cut the paper, put the ink side to the pcb and push and hold for little seconds, do not move get a iron hot , the same when you use in your shirts etc..  the heat is same as use in cotton for about 5 minutes after that just put the PCB away from heat for about 10 minutes, remove the paper whit a knife very slowly and the PCB is printed.... just  etching the pcb and is ready to drill

[sir_modulus]

I'm gonna say just go with a laser printer. I have a good laser and inkjet printer, and I just don't like the inkjet one anymore then the laser. The inkjet is much more expensive thanks to all the ink etc... and the laser is what I use for labeling, and also what I use for pcb layouts. For me, I'm either a PNP blue, or photopaper guy, and both of those need toner to work. I'd just get a good laser printer, as that's what I have. If you need color prints, you can always go to your local kinko's/staples/whatever.

For a printer...I'd say this is a really good one. In general, I've found HP laser printers to be awsome, and have long lives, and good warranties.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=28-104-330&depa=1

Cheers,

Nish