Crumbly - distorted organ type sound?

[Cabezahead]

I'm really looking for a build or some schematic suggestions that would get me in the area of a crumbly kind of distorted organ-type sound... John Medeski -  Uninvisible type stuff.  I'm not neccessarily looking for my guitar to sound like an organ... Just that certain, crumbly breakup that i've never seen done with guitar.

Dig?

Suprisingly enough - a Jawari with an 808 after it is the closest i've gotten to that kind of thing...  So i'm thinking somewhere in the vein of an octave/fuzz type pedal - but more evenly responsive and controlable than your typical octafuzz...

Lemme know what ya'll experts think.

-CH

[bwanasonic]

Maybe you could name a specific track, as I have heard MM&W in various settings, but can't think of anything that didn't just sound like an organ with some tube breakup (Hammond B3 into Leslie). A notched wah, or some type of filtering (pre OD or into a dirty amp) might help. When I set my EMMA Discumbobulator (envelope filter) to sweep down with a quick attack, I get a nice *organ-ish* tone. A small funky little tube amp (supro/ silvertone) might give you the *crumbly* sound. If you don't already, try using hybrid-picking or just fingers for a more authentic organ *comp* sound (pluck the notes in a chord simultaneosly rather than strum).

Kerry M

[aaronkessman]

the only time ive heard a guitar sound like an organ was when a guy was playing a hollow body gibson through a hughes and kettner rotosphere and boss blues driver into a fender blackface deluxe. NOw, im not saying you need all that, but what i do think you need is a full-sounding guitar into the rotosphere or other univibe/lelie type effect(helps give it that swirly organ sound) and then into an overdriven amp or pedal.

[Dji]

I recently built an MXR Blue Box from the tonepad schem (and with a very nice tonepad PCB). I'm still debugging it, but it has a very strange, synthy sound. It doesn't have the tracking you want, and it's probably not the exact sound, but it's a fairly easy build (my debugging issues notwithstanding) and might be a good place to start.

Oh... here's a picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35835838@N00/6338048/.

[MartyB]

Dji,

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I love it.

MartyB

[Cabezahead]

hmmm...  The leslie thing for sure... I mean - i knew the leslie's a big part of an 'organ' sound - but I never thought that a roto/uni into a distortion of some sort would create that effect... It might.  It would have to be set real fast to do what i'm thinkin...

But still - i'm not talking about sounding like an organ, per-se... It's a real specific CRUMBLE of a distortion...  I shouldn't have even mentioned Medeski or organs.  I'll keep at it.  Univibe is a good place to start.

thanks

-CH

[Dji]

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You also get some weird changes in certain colors under the heat, and some bubbling, but the effects have mostly been cool.