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Started by Hal, August 23, 2005, 01:58:47 PM

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Phend

Here it is, completed, the BMPi Green Russian version.
An unorthodox build using what I have here in the shop.
Certainly not anywhere near as professional as you
professional builders here at DIY Stompbox. Anyway
electrons find there way in and out of this wooden box and
point to point circuit as well as others. 
Laser cut, marked and etched for abalone inlay.
Placed in the last component, plugged it in and what a
great sound. No issues.  I measured each component for
values as close as possible to the schematic. Matched the
diodes and transistors as close as possible. No radio
interference, no hum, no scratch or click and pops. Brown
vintage resistors need to be painted blue.  Looks great next
to my other two similar builds.  Stay safe.




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duck_arse

Phend - attribute no critisism to this posting, please, but why always the breadboards? why not graduate to soldered boards?

nice battery clip!
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Phend

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Quotewhy not graduate to soldered boards?
Thanks for the question. Well I guess that would be the next step. I do not want to buy a kit, like one that has the board and all you do is plug and solder. I really did not know about perf boards until after I built the first box.  Drawing and etching a real board would be cool but sounds like it would be the third step in making effects. I see that soldering a bunch of parts is probably the easy part for you guys, the other being how can you put 10 pounds (kilos) of resistors into a 5 pound box !! Then there is the art work and applying it to an enclosure. Now that is real talent far from the electronics but a cool part of the whole effect.  Plus some of you design the actual circuit, maybe even use pi, (that is another topic) (what does the circumference of a circle have to do with electrons anyway !!) I am a mechanical engineer. The battery clip is scrap from a wooden / acrylic gear pendulum clock I built.  Time for Effect Boxes 1 o two.
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Quote from: Phend on July 20, 2020, 03:33:36 PM
Quotewhy not graduate to soldered boards?
Thanks for the question. Well I guess that would be the next step. I do not want to buy a kit, like one that has the board and all you do is plug and solder. I really did not know about perf boards until after I built the first box.  Drawing and etching a real board would be cool but sounds like it would be the third step in making effects. I see that soldering a bunch of parts is probably the easy part for you guys, the other being how can you put 10 pounds (kilos) of resistors into a 5 pound box !! Then there is the art work and applying it to an enclosure. Now that is real talent far from the electronics but a cool part of the whole effect.  Plus some of you design the actual circuit, maybe even use pi, (that is another topic) (what does the circumference of a circle have to do with electrons anyway !!) I am a mechanical engineer. The battery clip is scrap from a wooden / acrylic gear pendulum clock I built.  Time for Effect Boxes 10two.

Stripboard/veroboard i think would be a natural progression. All kinds of layouts available but you have to do the work adapting the stripboard to work with your circuit and does provide all that soldering practice.  all kinds of places to screw up along the way, not paint by numbers at all.
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Marcos - Munky

Imo, etching your own pcbs are way easier than veroboards. Easier to do the builds, easier to understand what's happening, easier to debug if needed to. Veroboards indeed are pretty similar to breadboards, the thing is my mind can't really understand what's going on on them and I prefer pcbs :icon_lol:. Perfboards are somewhere in between pcbs and veroboards.

Nowadays, it's pretty easy etch a pcb. Some time ago we needed some specific material to transfer the layouts, now you can do it if you have a laser/toner printer. There's plenty of tutorials on youtube, just take a look for heat tone transfer pcb. Drawing your own layouts are a few steps ahead and requires practice. Some people builds pedals for years without drawing a single layout, while others draw lots of layouts and build a few things. But reproducing an existent layout on pcb is a good next step.

Anyway, imo you should pick one: pcb, veroboard or stripboard. Every one have it's advantages and drawbacks when related to the other ones. Search for tutorials on all of them, pick one you like most, and make that your next step. Moving to soldered boards you make your builds more compact (your builds require space), more sturdy (breadboards are not so trusty and something may disconnect) and also easier/faster to do.

That said, now it's time to comment what I was intending to when I first saw this last build: I think your builds are really awesome pieces of art. This big muff deserves an acrylic lid and to be hang on a wall or put somewhere else where people can see what you built. And what you're doing is more complex than making your own boards (no matter which style you choose). It looks more like some things used to build point to point tube amps than the regular skills used on stompboxes - and I believe you'll have a nice time when you decide to give a go on your first tube amp.

garcho

To solder something if you like breadboards but don't want to etch or have PCBs made, try searching for "protoboards" or "busboards". Death to vero, that stuff is horrible, at least half the "why doesn't it work threads" here are because of vero builds.

https://www.busboard.com/products

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=protoboard+electrocookie&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=12&_osacat=0&_odkw=protoboard
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Phend

QuoteThat said, now it's time to comment what I was intending to when I first saw this last build: I think your builds are really awesome pieces of art.
Thanks for your suggestions and comments Marcos, Dave, duck and garcho. Think I will research the pcbs and garchos suggestion. Not very fond of the looks of some recent posts showing globs of solder on perf / veros then needing help looking for the short or cold connections. I'd rather not troubleshoot plus I would like to end up with a clean looking job. You know what I mean and who I mean. I try my best with the tools at hand to make those point to point boxes look some what cool. I have been lucky with those 3 builds, they fired up first time "out of the box" knock on wood, haha. Yes an acrylic lid, got the material I think, laser time is 8 seconds to cut it out. Have a laser toner copier. The laser can mark on metal using Cermark. Google Cermark and look at images. Plus in a post to come...graduating from transistors to ICs. I will post that soon. Stay safe. Paul
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Marcos - Munky

Take a look at this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVhSCEPINpM

While it takes experience to reach this level off good transfer quality, I think this one will motivate you to try to etch your own boards.

amptramp

I am a proponent of proto boards of this type:



In this one, you can see DIP spacing with two rows of power connections running under the DIP package(s).  There are connections for power and also for a DE-9 connector at the top and a pin header on the bottom.  These are way easier to use then Veroboard and give most of the advantages of a PCB without having to etch anything.

duck_arse

Quote from: Phend on July 20, 2020, 03:33:36 PM
Quotewhy not graduate to soldered boards?
Thanks for the question. ....  Plus some of you design the actual circuit, maybe even use pi, (that is another topic) (what does the circumference of a circle have to do with electrons anyway !!) I am a mechanical engineer. ....

an engineer. take a circle, mark a spot on the circumference. now drive the circle across your desk, and the marked spot will describe a sine wave in the air. hence, pi.
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Phend

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That pie anology is supposed to be a joke. Current lags voltage, no thanks, makes my head hurt. Delta, Y, no to shocking. Think I will thevenize a bit and call it quits for the night. Back to the material world, thanks to all for suggestions, will get into a soldered board build effect. ACDC great band.
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deadastronaut

finished of a box of sounds for a good friend, its a 99 sounds reverb module with added circuitry to get it going...he wants to use it with his electric kalimba...etched, and designed how he wanted it...yes he is a mason, and named mason ... ;)









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chasm reverb/tremshifter/faze filter/abductor II delay/timestream reverb/dreamtime delay/skinwalker hi gain dist/black triangle OD/ nano drums/space patrol fuzz//

stallik

Volume pedal made with salvaged bits from all over (running out of everything)
Treadle is cast acrylic, bent by heating with a mini hot air gun. Active circuit is just an SHO crackle not OK which needs 25 degree pot rotation to go from zero to unity meaning I could have the pot on axis with the treadle hinge. Hinges courtesy of a bolt on one side and bits of an old 3pdt foot switch the other. Found a use for the white plastic washers ;) Hot melt glue holds the guts together So it'll probably fall apart some time soon but for the moment it's smooth and works really well
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vigilante397

Quote from: deadastronaut on July 22, 2020, 09:39:36 AM


So this is absurdly cool. Like so ridiculously cool.

Quote from: stallik on July 22, 2020, 08:36:23 PM


This is also absurdly cool. So absurdly cool.

That is all I have to say.
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deadastronaut

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that is very cool kevin, great way to make a treadle/wah/vol/etc....come on we have to have a demo.  8)

please tell me there is an led under that perspex  8) 8) 8)
https://www.youtube.com/user/100roberthenry
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chasm reverb/tremshifter/faze filter/abductor II delay/timestream reverb/dreamtime delay/skinwalker hi gain dist/black triangle OD/ nano drums/space patrol fuzz//

bluebunny

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Quote from: stallik on July 22, 2020, 08:36:23 PM
Found a use for the white plastic washers ;)

The only way to know if somebody isn't human is when they find a use for these extra washers... (much more in a pedal) :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:

Nice pedal, now i wish i had a hot air gun and some extra washers.... :icon_lol:
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stallik

Quote from: deadastronaut on July 23, 2020, 03:28:16 AM
please tell me there is an led under that perspex  8) 8) 8)

No led's on this one but while I was bending plastic, I made a Zvex probe wah clone case which lights up like Blackpool ;) more on that later
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deadastronaut

^ cool, looking forward to seeing that...nice one.  8)
https://www.youtube.com/user/100roberthenry
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chasm reverb/tremshifter/faze filter/abductor II delay/timestream reverb/dreamtime delay/skinwalker hi gain dist/black triangle OD/ nano drums/space patrol fuzz//

willienillie

Quote from: bluebunny on July 23, 2020, 03:47:57 AM
Switch off the internet.  Kevin has won.   :icon_cool:

Almost.  He's got a battery snap and two mono jacks.