Amp: can something be done with unused 5V tap?

Started by elberto, September 04, 2005, 10:04:24 PM

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elberto

So I'm in the process of putting an amp together, and I'm wondering if there's something creative I can do with the unused 5V tap coming off the power transformer (using a ss rectifier for the amp's b+)?  Could this be used to power, say, an onboard effect with some rectification and filtering?

nelson

Maxon voltage doubler bring it up to 9v an use it to power any onboard effect you would like, personally I would go for a simple tremelo (EA tremelo) rig it up with a simple relay or fet switching and use standard amp switching to switch trem off/on.

May get added noise with the MAX1044 though.

Thats what I would prob do, there is bound to be a better option than the 1044 though.
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putrefusion

make it switchable rectifiers... 5volt tube rectos are easy to come by.

or, drill some more holes for 12ax7s and add channel switching, using relays and vactec LDRs
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elberto

next stupid question:  exactly how do I get 9vdc from 5vac again?  

I def like the idea of sticking a trem in there.

as for channel switching, I'm using one of those weber relays that runs off the filament supply.

Paul Perry (Frostwave)

If that 5v winding is not connected to anything else, you can make a simple diode voltage doubler like this: (the top one)
http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms/Circuits/Doublers.gif
Allowing for diode drops, you might get about 10v DC or so from this.
Maybe (check data sheet) you could run a low dropout 9v regulator from it.

nelson

Quote from: Paul Perry (Frostwave)If that 5v winding is not connected to anything else, you can make a simple diode voltage doubler like this: (the top one)
http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms/Circuits/Doublers.gif
Allowing for diode drops, you might get about 10v DC or so from this.
Maybe (check data sheet) you could run a low dropout 9v regulator from it.

Nice!

Knew there had to be somethign better than a charge pump.
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Paul Marossy

I was also going to suggest a voltage doubler circuit, but then I thought about it a little bit - wouldn't you end up with a positive and a negative voltage instead of a positive voltage and ground?

Paul Perry (Frostwave)

Quote from: Paul MarossyI was also going to suggest a voltage doubler circuit, but then I thought about it a little bit - wouldn't you end up with a positive and a negative voltage instead of a positive voltage and ground?

Well no, if the transformer winding isn't connected to ground.
It is true, that if you make the non-diode side of the transformer winding ground, then yes, you have a +5 and a -5 output, with respect to that ground.
But, if you don't connect the transformer winding to anything, then you have the two output caps, and they just stack like a pair of batteries end to end, and you make the - of the - cap ground, and there it is!!

Paul Marossy

Oh, I see. That's cool!  I only asked because I have very little experience with voltage doubler ciruits.  :wink: