Distortion in Danecho

Started by p1_ind, October 10, 2005, 08:16:13 PM

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p1_ind

I recently got a Danelectro Danecho pedal and while testing it out I noticed quite a bit of a distorted sound in the delays.  The distortion is present most as the note begins to decay.
I was wondering if this is normal (as I have never tried this pedal before) or if there is a way to decrease this noise?

I haven't seen a schematic for it but looking at the board it uses a PT2395 with a 256K ram for delay.  It also has a LM311 and a 4558 and a few 2SC1815.  I also noticed that the board is ran on 5V.

Thanks,
Adam

bioroids

What kind of distortion? Like clipping of the hard picked notes? or more like a little overdrive on the general sound?

Miguel
Eramos tan pobres!

p1_ind

It is a digital sounding, light distortion that occurs at the tail end of the note and as the note fades away.  It doesn't seem to be at the beginning of the note and only in the delayed signal not the clean signal.

Adam

bioroids

I never heard one of those pedals, but the ones based on the PT2399 like the Rebote Delay have some of that distortion when the time delay is at max settings. Does yours makes the noise always on only on long delay times?

Luck

Miguel
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AL

Make SURE you have a fresh battery. I know it sounds stupid but the Dan Echo has a "virtual bypass" according to the company. I assume that means they use a chip. When the battery starts to go (the LED still lights fine) the signal starts to degrade to the point where the pedal needs to be completely removed from the chain. It won't bypass and the pedal won't work - sounds like a blown speaker. Horrible design for an otherwise decent sounding pedal

AL

ryanscissorhands

Isn't the Danecho an analog delay? So it shouldn't be a digital distortion (although it might sound that way). Are you running a booster into it at all? It's possible that it wouldn't overload the input, but would voerload the delay's input. . .

bioroids

Is not analog, is digital and uses a PT2395, the big brother of our friend the PT2399

Miguel
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p1_ind

The distortion is noticable on the long and short delay settings but it is much worse on the longest delay settings.

I have tried it with both a fresh battery and 9V adapter with the same results.

Adam

p1_ind

After playing it more and listening more, I will try to discribe the noise better.
The distortion is more of a fizzling sound.  If you play a note the delayed signal has the fizzle and after a second or so the fizzle stops like a noise gate shuts it off.  It is not as noticeble on shorter delays and gets worse on longer delays.  The harder you hit the note the worse the fizzle.

Adam

bioroids

You should check with someone who has the pedal. I think that's the way it is, as the PT2399 based delays do that noise too, more or less.

Miguel
Eramos tan pobres!

warioblast

Quote from: p1_ind on October 10, 2005, 08:16:13 PM
I recently got a Danelectro Danecho pedal and while testing it out I noticed quite a bit of a distorted sound in the delays.  The distortion is present most as the note begins to decay.
I was wondering if this is normal (as I have never tried this pedal before) or if there is a way to decrease this noise?

I haven't seen a schematic for it but looking at the board it uses a PT2395 with a 256K ram for delay.  It also has a LM311 and a 4558 and a few 2SC1815.  I also noticed that the board is ran on 5V.

Thanks,
Adam


Hi Adam,
I own the Danecho, and I too get slight distortion.
Cheers,
Fabrice