Attention****DSP programmers****Achtung

[puretube]

anyone heard the rumors that Jeorge is partnered with Dunlop to re-manufacture the way huge line?

any substantiation?

they heard rumours:
http://musictoyz.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4066066091/m/4951085173
here is an answer:
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15064352

[zachary vex]

well, Ton, i participated in that second thread, and i still can't tell if he's serious about quitting Line6 or not, and i have no idea what he's going to do as far as any of the rumors.  everything is still speculation afaik, but if someone has more solid information, feel free to pipe up.  8^)

[Mark Hammer]

I received a note from Jeorge on the 7th (as did others on his list), stating "I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that I am leaving my position at Line 6. An opportunity has arisen that I cannot ignore or resist. My last day at Line 6 will be Feb. 10th."  Clearly there is a shift in career plan, but I have no idea what it is.  Certainly, it is not a rift or anything of that nature.  He has been quite generous to me, so obviously I wish him every success.  Given the rather exciting ride he has had at Line 6, my curiosity about what lured him away grows by the minute.

[puretube]

well, Ton, i participated in that second thread...  8^)

yes, I discovered the follow up pages after I posted (immediately after seeing Mr. Huges post...).

So my post was more or less an intermediate info for the other nosy/interested people (like me  ).

I hope for those, that jumped on this thread`s original intention,
that everything works out well for them,
even after the news that Mark just posted. 

[The Tone God]

Hmmm....almost makes me want to re-think my posistion on this whole deal.

Andrew

[SeanCostello]

OK, so where do the DSP programmers that are the subject of this thread stand? With Mr. Tripps gone, is the 3rd party program still active?

(I'd email Jeorge at Line 6, but I presume he is kinda busy today...)

Sean Costello

[Mark Hammer]

I can spot you Angelo's e-mail address if you need.  The 3rd party thing might lose steam in his absence, since it is almost a general principle in organizations that if you think of something 30 nanoseconds before anyone else did, it becomes your responsibility, and no one will ever carry that ball for you.  On the other hand, theyDO have that little investment in those modular chassis things, so I suspect that carries a little momentum, with Jeorge or not.

[nelson]

From the way huge website thats "under construction"

The Red Llama Overdrive, Saffron Squeeze Compressor, Green Rhino Overdrive II, Tone Leper Midboost, Swollen Pickle Jumbo Fuzz, Piercing Moose Octifuzz, Foot Pig Fuzz, Aqua-Puss Analog Delay, Purple Platypus Octidrive, Blue Hippo Analog Chorus, Camel Toe Triple Overdrive, Sasquatch, Super-Puss Analog Tape Simulator, Galatic Swankulator Analog Delay, Fat Sandwich Distortion, Swine Face Fuzz II, Screaming Beaver, Mr. Huge, Dr. Huge, Way Huge, Wayhuge, Way Huge Electronics, Mr. Huge cartoons and Way Huge Electronics logo are all trademarks of Saucy, Inc. Use of any of these names in part or whole without written permission from Saucy, Inc. is strictly prohibited. All other product names, trademarks, and artists' names are the property of their respective owners, which are in no way associated or affiliated with Way Huge Electronics or Saucy, inc. Product names, images, and artists' names and are used solely for the purpose of identifying certain types of tones that can be produced using Way Huge Electronics effects. Use of these products, images, trademarks, and artists' names does not imply any cooperation or endorsement.

I see a few new ones.

[The Tone God]

The 3rd party thing might lose steam in his absence...

Unless he is planning on releasing Way Huge Tonecore modules but that is speculation on my part.

If I was in his shoes I would have little interesting in reissuing the old Way Huge line on my own like everyone and their dog seems to be speculating. After working on things at Line6 the playing around with modded BMP and TS would seem kind of lame. If he is going to work for Dunlop I doubt they would be interested in him designing stuff for them using another company's product for the base so I see weekness there.

If the Dunlop rumours are true I would sooner guess that he's licencing out the old Way Huge stuff to be reissued by Dunlop while working on newer DSP stuff on his own using the Tonecore base.

Just a few of my thoughts.

Andrew

[Mark Hammer]

I think that is more speculative than is warranted.

The call for 3rd party modules by Jeorge on behalf of Line 6 was for use by the specific platform used by the Tone Core docks.  My hunch is that the switch to selling modules AS modules, and the call for 3rd party developers was for the purpose of being able to have a broader line of moules than anyone might want to use simultaneously. Otherwise there is no economic justification for selling the docks and modules separately.  Once the stable is big enough that players would say "I wouldn't mind *owning* A, B, and C, if they were cheap enough, but I could never see myself using more than two of them at once", it becomes sensible to sell the modules separate from the dock.

I do not wish to ever underestimate Jeorge's chops, digital or analog, but my sense is that his role there was as project manager and "shepherd" for that product line; coordinating all the players involved, making sure the website got put up, running to trade shows, talking to the jobbers in China making the components, coordinating beta-testing, etc.  If he implies that something sort of fell into his lap, I think it is a fairly safe bet that it does not involve starting up a "breakaway product line" that benefits from Line 6's digital knowledge base but still needs to be developed.

We should probably just let Jeorge pack up his desk, go out for drinks with the guys one more time (it IS Friday night in California later today, after all), and wait it out until we get some more authoritative news.

It's starting to feel like "People" magazine in here! 

[The Tone God]

I think that is more speculative than is warranted.

...

We should probably just let Jeorge pack up his desk, go out for drinks with the guys one more time (it IS Friday night in California later today, after all), and wait it out until we get some more authoritative news.

Agreed. Anything said anywhere at this point is pure speculation until Jeorge says something. Lets let him work through his biz. I'm done with this until then.

Andrew

[hoerni]

Hmmm, looks like I tuned in a little late while everyone is still waiting for MrHuge to return. 

I'd like to add my name to the list of people interested in this.   As an introduction, I am an EE with a specialization in Signal Processing (wireless research lately, but I've always kept my hands in the audio realm).  In addition, I actually have some experience coding the Motorola DSP 56000 line of DSPs in assembler (programmed real time implementations of LMS adaptive filters and LMS IIR adaptive filters on a Motorola DSP56000 a number of years ago).  My recent DSP experience has been in C and with the TI C6416, but I'm know I still remember alot of the 56k programming techniques (I'm having flashbacks of it's Harvard architecture with one line MAC/fetch operations - ah, now that was some efficient coding, 2 lines of assembler to implement an FIR filter (after setting the cyclic pointer registers of course)  )

Sorry if that sounds like a resume excerpt.  Ah well, I might as well finish my introduction since I'm relatively new here.  I also teach as an adjunct instructor at a college in NYC.  In the past I've taught classes on MATLAB programming (with an eye towards circuits and DSP applications), a programmable logic and PIC microcontroller lab (I also have lots of PIC programming experience).  Most recently I've been teaching a course on signal processing techniques as it relates Music to music (class name Digital Music) and a Adaptive Filters course.   If anyone is interested, I have a couple of lectures up on line (http://www.cooper.edu/~hoerni/teach/eemusic/effects_v6.htm and http://www.cooper.edu/~hoerni/teach/lectures/digital/Hoerning_digital_draft_v2.htm - probably common knowledge stuff around here)

Based on my read of the above posts, it almost sounds like Line 6 was looking to create some developers kits to get people started.  I'd be very much interested in getting my hands on something like that. ;    

I guess I'll pull up a chair and continue waiting with everyone else.

[Mr.Huge]

Aloha all,
I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that I am leaving my position at Line 6. An opportunity has arisen that I cannot ignore or resist. My last day at Line 6 is today, Friday Feb. 10th.
At this time there isn't a project lead that will be overseeing the ToneCore 3rd Party development project. Please understand that until someone else is assigned as project lead, there may be limited ability to assist you or answer your questions.
To be clear... The ToneCore 3rd party development is in no way a designer hunt by Line 6 for new employees. We are doing this to encourage DSP development by individuals and small companies. We are hoping it will start a new stomp box DSP community.  The ToneCore is an excellent platform to develop on and no one has ever offered to open up their DSP platform before. I hope that you will all move foreword with your own ToneCore algorithms. I'll be anxiously awaiting 3rd party ToneCore modules to surface.
Sincerely,
-Jeorge Tripps

[amz-fx]

I just got my first VST plugin working last night...  it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics...  it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch.  DSP could be interesting this year...   

regards, Jack

[amz-fx]

I just got my first VST plugin working last night...  it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics...  it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch.  DSP could be interesting this year... 

It was fairly easy to mod this code into an emulation of the Proco Rat.  It came out really well.  Now I have to learn how to skin the plugins.

-Jack

[troubledtom]

I just got my first VST plugin working last night...  it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics...  it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch.  DSP could be interesting this year... 

damn jack!
    that's too cool!!!!!!!!!!!
            - tom

It was fairly easy to mod this code into an emulation of the Proco Rat.  It came out really well.  Now I have to learn how to skin the plugins.

-Jack

rad!!!!!!!
- tom

[no one ever]

Aloha all,
I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that I am leaving my position at Line 6. An opportunity has arisen that I cannot ignore or resist. My last day at Line 6 is today, Friday Feb. 10th.
At this time there isn't a project lead that will be overseeing the ToneCore 3rd Party development project. Please understand that until someone else is assigned as project lead, there may be limited ability to assist you or answer your questions.
To be clear... The ToneCore 3rd party development is in no way a designer hunt by Line 6 for new employees. We are doing this to encourage DSP development by individuals and small companies. We are hoping it will start a new stomp box DSP community.  The ToneCore is an excellent platform to develop on and no one has ever offered to open up their DSP platform before. I hope that you will all move foreword with your own ToneCore algorithms. I'll be anxiously awaiting 3rd party ToneCore modules to surface.
Sincerely,
-Jeorge Tripps

ok so we got our job... what about you 'n dunlop?

[amz-fx]

I just got my first VST plugin working last night...  it is a DSP version of the TS808 emulating all of its circuit characteristics...  it doesn't look like a pedal yet and it's not pretty but it does distort and has that characteristic mid-range crunch.  DSP could be interesting this year... 

Okay, here's a screenshot of the VST plugin in use:



If you want to hear it in operation, here is a sample mp3 file:

http://70.159.131.67/media/misc/TS808c.mp3  768k

It starts off with my Strat with the dead strings going direct into the computer...  pretty dull and lifeless...  keep the sound turned down to a moderate level. You will see why when you get to the part where I kick on the TS plugin!  The TS-VST definitely livens up the sound.

It still needs some work as it is just a bit harsh but it has the TS-type midrange boost.  Also, the skin is basic and will get some work later.

regards, Jack

[hairyandy]

Jack,

That sounds awesome!  How do I get a copy?  The only thing I could say to make it a little better is to maybe roll off a little of the top-end fizz up around 7-8k or so (which is what you're thinking is harsh I assume).  Then again, part of that might be the crappy speakers in my Powerbook.    I think it sounds great and honestly looks really good as well.  A lot of the freebie DIY VST plugs that I've seen don't even bother with the skin...

[amz-fx]

That sounds awesome!  How do I get a copy? 

At some point, I may offer them for download.  A chorus and flanger are in the works too...

regards, Jack