Anyone looked inside new Behringer effects e.g. DM100?

Started by grolschie, February 19, 2006, 05:27:46 PM

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tcobretti

I own the OD100.  I went to the store and comperaed it with the Boss and it sounded slightly different, but every bit as good, so I bought it.  However, the others Behringer pedals I tried did not fare nearly so well.  The BMP clone is serious crap; it sounds as bad as any distortion pedal I've heard, and note that I don't describe it as a fuzz, because it wasn't fuzzy at all.  The Ultra metal didn't do anything for me, and I can't remember if I tried the Blues pedal cause I don't like the Boss it's based on in the first place.  The store I went to didn't have any modulating behringer effects, so I can't offer an opinion there.  The plastic cases and cheap switches suck, but I baby my pedals so I'm not too worried about it for now.

I would suggest that you carefully compare it with the original before you buy a behringer.  Even if it sounds good, the Boss or EH may sound way better.

grolschie

How easy would it be to gut a new behringer plastic pedal and mount in a metal chasis with a decent stomp switch? Are the pots soldered to the circuit board and have to be replaced? I don't care for true by-pass, because it's not where it's at. But making the pedal reliable and shielded might be the go. Was thinking of grabbing a tremolo maybe.

RaceDriver205

If they have it, you should grap the digital multi-pedal they sell. Its got tremolo and several others (like delay, chorus, pitch etc). Same size as the others, and only $50Aus. Im very impressed with its lack of crap-ness. ;D

grolschie

Quote from: RaceDriver205 on December 11, 2006, 06:51:41 PM
If they have it, you should grap the digital multi-pedal they sell. Its got tremolo and several others (like delay, chorus, pitch etc). Same size as the others, and only $50Aus. Im very impressed with its lack of crap-ness. ;D

uh oh!
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Behringer/FX100/10/1

RaceDriver205

Wow, unreal! It may be that there has been some modifications since they last bought it. The LED doesn't flash on mine, and you can't hear the effects in the background. Theres no pop either.
My review:
Tremolo - Works, sounds OK
Phaser - Doesn't work
Flanger - Sounds real bad.
Chorus - Works and sounds OK
Delay - Works, but you get a special sort of delay. It sounds like a synthesiser thing. Its not analog sounding at all, but you get something else which can be set to sound REALLY cool.
Pitch Shifter - Works and Sounds great (why I bought the pedal)

For $50Aus, its worth it. Ill post a soundclip of it soon.

grolschie

Cheers for that. What options does the pitch shifter have? What about the trem? Does it do sine/square option? Don't need a delay, as I am stoked with my Marshall Echohead (on a regulated 9v PSU). Semi-interested in a chorus - I don't use one often, and my Arion SCH-1 sounds far too flangery for me.

fikri

Does anybody ever try a Behringer Wah ? is it good ?

RaceDriver205



grolschie

Quote from: RaceDriver205 on December 12, 2006, 04:09:52 AM
The behringer wah is very crap. I tried it.

Apparently it's really good sounding, but you gotta adjust the sensor somewhat. Being plastic is the biggest issue.

RaceDriver205

Hmm, i see. The guy at the store must have had it setup poorly.
What do you think of the sound of the fx100? The pitch shifter is on perfect fourth (or fifth, i don't know) setting. I have a clip of it on an octave setting, which sounds quite good, if your interested.

petemoore

  Re-boxing a Jfet switched, PCB potted/jacked...etc. effect...*could be done of course, but just having a spare is probably less trouble and money...
  Does anybody ever try a Behringer Wah ? is it good ?...'good'...big heavy, has lotsa knobs, fairly interesting bypass [moving the treadle just a touch activates the 'wah'], has boost etc. seems like a Helluva HellBabe deal, and sort of is, only problem is that it sounds...weak, almost no quack whatsoever no matter how it's set, fairly low noise and does an almost half decent %^&*ed wah tone...except the pedal is sprung [so you have to hold position if you want %^&*ed way, and...again very subtle effect, maybe worth the 30D entrance fee...if you want quack look for a different duck, this one only does the 'a', almost the 'au' of a quack. Lotsa fancy features 'n all but...barely wahs.
   Apparently it's really good sounding, but you gotta adjust the sensor somewhat. Being plastic is the biggest issue.
  I bought it, tried it, tried using it....gave it to Bill to try, he tried it, it sits on the table for now though...lol. If you don't know what wah sounds like, and have no expectations of any certain wah, this thing is a bargain. All the belltuning and whistle tweeking of the many knobs just didn't make a decent enough wah, preboosting/whatever didn't budge any more quack out of it. ...Big Clunky thing with wierd switch, sprung pedal, hardly worth it's own weight IMO.
  THe EQ works just fine, reminds me of that other "B" company 7 band unit I had, possible that the eq700 is even a touch lower noise...does 7 band eq just fine, comparable sound / plastic eq. I had to damp down the paint frequency, that yellow safety color made me nervous, I had to paint it. Take it easy on all the connectors and it's a great eq deal.
  I bought cheep choruses, Boss Power Chorus being the best of the batches I tried, pretty good actually, but I think I'd prefer a buxxier chorus.
 
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

searoad


RaceDriver205

Well hell no, but for $50 is does an acceptable job.

grolschie

Quote from: RaceDriver205 on December 16, 2006, 06:10:32 PM
Well hell no, but for $50 is does an acceptable job.

I didn't hear anything on the soundbytes that make me wanna buy. Maybe I don't like his settings. Does the PS do the one octave down thing? Not a chord, but simply one octave down? Can the trem switch between sine/square wave?

grol

RaceDriver205

QuoteI didn't hear anything on the soundbytes that make me wanna buy
Well there you go, perhaps theres something wrong with my interpretation of 'good'.
Aye, it has an octave down. Don't know what wave the trem uses.

Gilles C

I paid a visit to a music store today. Well, they had a few interesting toys for a lonely guitar player.

Anyway, I came back with a Behringer GDI21. I didn't feel or even have the time to build a Sansamp... It would be hard to build one for the price I paid for the Behringer.

I'll open it some day, but for now I'm just happy to play with it. I like it better than the EQ I bought not long ago. It looks stronger, and it sounds good.

No noise in the XLR output either.

Now I know how it should sound when I decide to built part of the circuit based on the Sansamp GT2. That's where the experimentation will begin...

Gilles

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Roobin

Quote from: grolschie on December 16, 2006, 06:51:35 AM
Quote from: RaceDriver205 on December 12, 2006, 04:09:52 AM
The behringer wah is very crap. I tried it.

Apparently it's really good sounding, but you gotta adjust the sensor somewhat. Being plastic is the biggest issue.

How's the switching? Comparable to a Morley? If it's any good I might use that part and replace the wah circuitry.