Can I use a 15V supply?

Started by soren, March 29, 2006, 10:52:30 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

soren

First of all, hi everyone, I'm new here...

I found the forum a few days ago, and I have been reading here and there. I found a simple circuit, and decided to make my first attempt at a stompbox. (Blue Clipper, because it looked simple enough, but that is really not relevant to my question)

I have two power supplies: a 15V and a 13.8V, and I want to use those for testing, in stead of a battery. Can I do that? Do I have to change the voltage divider values? Should I build a 9V voltage regulator?

Another question, now that I have your attention: I'm not entirely sure what type of capacitors I have. Some are electrolytes, I know. Some of them might be tantalum or ceramic, or something else. How important is that? A lot of them are in little blue, square, plastic packages, what type could that be?

Thanks for your help! I hope my questions are not too stupid...
/Søren

jrem

your power supplies may be unregulated, so when you load them up the voltage will get pulled down.  So if that's the case a voltage divider resistor network won't give you a reliable 9vdc.  You'll want a LM7809 regulator for that.  However . . .   the data sheet states +/-22vdc for that opamp, so you could run it up to 0-44vdc . . . you may be able to get by with what you have.  You may need to adjust the bias resistors (240k/20k) to get the swing right on the opamp, though.  I would think the opamp is just driving the output and the diodes are doing the clipping, but someone else can chime in here.

little blue square plastic packages . . .  sounds like polyethylene or polypropelene capacitors, go for it.  If the values are close you won't do any damage.

jxoco

you want the 15v supply to be used for your testing/building, correct, so you don't go through expensive batteries, right.
And when you are finished building and testing you want the effect to actually run on a 9v battery, correct.
Then you need to first build yourself a 9v regulator.
they are simple and cheap and will get you started on the skills that you need for your effect building.
There are many schematics for a regulator.

here is a good starting piont;
http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/pedalbdpwr/pedalbd.htm

jxoco

A better starting point
http://generalguitargadgets.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=106

under effects, power supplies, ultra clean 9v

you wouldn't need the transformer and ac plug.

you could just connect the + of your 13v supply to the + of the 1000uf capacitor and connect the - of your 13v supply to the - of the 1000uf capacitor.

soren

Thanks a lot for your quick replies.

I took your advice, and built a 9V supply. Turns out I had a 7809 lying around, so that was almost too easy.

I had made a small mistake on the breadboard, so I'm not sure which of the two errors where the worst. Oh well, whatever, I NOW HAVE MY FIRST DIY STOMPBOX!!! I'm so exited!

It sounds like crap, though... I mean, the mid and high range is great, but the low end is a big muddy mess. Maybe I got a capacitor value wrong, or something. I think I'll solder it anyway, it is, afterall, my first...

Thanks a lot for your help! Don't go far, I'll be back shortly with more stupid questions for my next pedal...  ;)

jrem

don't solder it up if it's on a breadboard!  you don't know how long I leave breadboards wired up with input/output leads and show people . . . it's almost cooler than having a finished box!

Seriously, if your lows are muddy tweak the circuit.  Input/output caps, and feedback to the op amp circuit would be my first stab at it.