crunch pedal

[scaesic]

what are recomendations for a crunch style over the top distortion without sounding at all fuzzy.

[petemoore]

  Cereal Killer...sprinkles Corn Flakes around the body.
  EQ > DIST + > EQ ?
  Something with a tube maybe?
  Ahhh I Got it....applied Jfet-2b Technology.
 
 
 

[gez]

Nutcruncher at Marcos/Munky's site?  Might be a little too smooth, it's all subjective at the end of the day.

[scaesic]

  Cereal Killer...sprinkles Corn Flakes around the body.
  EQ > DIST + > EQ ?
  Something with a tube maybe?
  Ahhh I Got it....applied Jfet-2b Technology.
 
 
 

i've given serious thought to using 2 eq's, but i'm not sure if the noise will justify the end product. I know your not going to be able to get an amp sound with a pedal but just to give you an idea,I like the crunch you can get from vintage marshal tube amps, anything fuzzy is too much, and anything overdrivey like the ds-1 isn't enough. Ive been considering the Rat, perhaps i can add a simple rc hpf connected to a toggle to the input of a rat? anyone else?

[Mark Hammer]

Is it me or does the term "crunch" have multiple meanings?  When I think "crunch" I think of something that has an easily discernible distortion at the pick attack, but returns to a more warm vocal sound immediately after that initial bite.  As an example, I would classify a Distortion+ that has germanium diodes replaced with silicon ones, or perhaps a silicon and LED as a crunchier pedal, such that you get a nice harmonic addition ("crunch") when you bite into a chord, but a smoother tone once the initial bite is over.  In a similar vein, what I would get from using a pick with a serrated edge would fit my mental model of crunch.

In that sense, it is sort of impossible to have "over the top" distortion, and "crunch" in the same unit, since the degree of gain needed to be "over the top" would result in continued clipping after the initial transient.

[stm]

Nutcruncher at Marcos/Munky's site?  Might be a little too smooth, it's all subjective at the end of the day.

Could you post a link please? I checked Munky's site but couldn't fin "nut" or "crunch" words in the schematics.

EDIT: After cleaning my glasses, enlarging the fonts, and using the FIND function *within* the scope of Munky's site I could find the schem    Promising circuit, by the way, just as the Red Llama and 3-Legged-Dog

[TELEFUNKON]

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=36338.msg258323#msg258323

[scaesic]

Is it me or does the term "crunch" have multiple meanings?  When I think "crunch" I think of something that has an easily discernible distortion at the pick attack, but returns to a more warm vocal sound immediately after that initial bite.  As an example, I would classify a Distortion+ that has germanium diodes replaced with silicon ones, or perhaps a silicon and LED as a crunchier pedal, such that you get a nice harmonic addition ("crunch") when you bite into a chord, but a smoother tone once the initial bite is over.  In a similar vein, what I would get from using a pick with a serrated edge would fit my mental model of crunch.

In that sense, it is sort of impossible to have "over the top" distortion, and "crunch" in the same unit, since the degree of gain needed to be "over the top" would result in continued clipping after the initial transient.

aye, well obviously any sort of constant high gain clipping is going to just generate a fuzz type noise. I guess what i mean by "crunch" is quite a large dynamic and anglar sound as aposed to sounding "smoooth", but still very noticible gainful, especially in the highs without sounding shrill. As i said, kind of in the region of a marshal jcm900 will the pre on max and using the master as a master volume.

Any ideas for a simple circuit for cutting lows INTO the circuit but routing them back in with the original circuit? Eq's seem a bit excessive for this excercise and i think it'd result in a lot of noise.