Vero Layout for all of you TS fans...

Started by hairyandy, July 24, 2006, 02:54:30 AM

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Xavier

Do you think it's worth the build having previously built a Tube Reamer? are there significant differences?

Torchy

The Tube Reamerv1 is a well stripped down TS, and sounds completely different to my ears. Worth a build on its own merits.
The Tube Reamerv2 is much closer to the Overhype/TS but omits buffering etc and to me sounds grittier.

I would breadboard the Overhype first, and compare it to your other pedals, but as a TS clone+ its a lot more versatile.
And, as MM said, you can never have too many distortions !

Nice one Andy  :icon_wink:

hairyandy

Thanks Torchy, but it really was mostly your layout.  How's that old saying go, "standing on the shoulders of giants..." or some such nonsense.

:)

Andy Harrison
It's all about signal flow...
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joelap

Ahhh what the hell... I might as well admit it.

some time ago, for ym first build from scratch (IE, no kits), I cloned the Dynamic Overhype on perf board.  MY first time ever using perf or ever putting together something off a schematic.  Well, when I finished, I took a step back and looked at my creation... and realized there was no way my crazy mess of purple wire was ever going to fit into the B sized box I got from small bear!  I mean, wires everywhere... it was literally a rats nest of wires!  Anyways, I turned it on with the back off since it was definately not fitting.  Fired it up: wow, it works!  Its distorting GREAT!  Bypass worked great...

...

...then I realized "Hey... why is it distorting when I forgot to put the transistors in the sockets?"

...

Quickly unplugged the pedal but it was to no avail: the damage was done.  It never worked again!  :)  I still have that old mess of wires too.  I'll post some pictures tonight if I can remember.  Its really hilarious to look at, especially now that I have much more of an idea what I'm doing.  Oh well, live and learn.

Now I'm going to have to build this circuit... I've got unfinished business with it!  :)

/humor.
- witty sig -

MartyMart

Hey Andy, built and working great .. so verified !
Had a small 10 minute de-bug ( would you believe a tiny solder blob !! )

I know it's "just another tweaked TS-9" but is sounds great and has a good gain range.
I like the LED position and the diodes out too :D
Cheers,

MM.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com

hairyandy

Andy Harrison
It's all about signal flow...
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MartyMart

Here's a "tip" which applies to all the "TS" type circuits.
There's a 220n ( 0.22uf ) cap off pin 1 to ground, it's C9 on Andy's layout, reduce this to 100n or
even less ( 47n & 22n in parallel works great .... 69n  :icon_redface:)
You will have some more "bite" and your tone control will actually have some use afterwards !!
:D :D

MM.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com

petemoore

  Recent upgrade TS fanboy here...
  The one I use on the PB works great!!!
  Nothing wrong though, with having two choices of great And excellent of 'similar type build...furthering the testing by A/Bing comparititvely similar builds..mod as you go..
  I often enough pick one I like, then build another derivitave of it, then compare/contrast the differences, giving each a better chance of  becoming 'optimal' with the guitar-*effect-amp thing, by use of some judiciouslly placed tweekin' sockets 'n EZ mods trix.
 
 
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

newbie builder

#28
I just modded my home built ts-808 to landgraff spec but there's one wierd thing- with the 1meg pot in as drive it maxes out really soon. After about 12 o'clock there is no difference in the amount of gain....did i screw something up in my wiring? Other than that, it's great! I really never used my ts before- never really liked it. With YELLOW (not red- didn't like them as much. sounded thinner and boxier than the yellow) leds i get a great sound, also with no diode clipping. I liked those two so much I just have a switch wired up with those two diodes- I never use any sym or asym clipping with standard diodes. Sounds really good. Next I'm gonna try MartyMart's suggestion of the 100n cap, but I think I like it just as is! It already has lots of bite with the LEDS! Great sounds, thanks!
//

Toney

Quote from: MartyMart on July 27, 2006, 11:14:56 AM
Here's a "tip" which applies to all the "TS" type circuits.
There's a 220n ( 0.22uf ) cap off pin 1 to ground, it's C9 on Andy's layout, reduce this to 100n or
even less ( 47n & 22n in parallel works great .... 69n  :icon_redface:)
You will have some more "bite" and your tone control will actually have some use afterwards !!
:D :D

MM.

Just to clarify...It's pin5 of the op amp.

MartyMart

Quote from: Toney on July 30, 2006, 01:08:42 AM
Quote from: MartyMart on July 27, 2006, 11:14:56 AM
Here's a "tip" which applies to all the "TS" type circuits.
There's a 220n ( 0.22uf ) cap off pin 1 to ground, it's C9 on Andy's layout, reduce this to 100n or
even less ( 47n & 22n in parallel works great .... 69n  :icon_redface:)
You will have some more "bite" and your tone control will actually have some use afterwards !!
:D :D

MM.

Just to clarify...It's pin5 of the op amp.


That's not the one I'm talking about Toney, it IS the .22uf tant off pin 1 to ground , just checked on two versions
of the TS-9 schematic  :D

MM.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com

hairyandy

I finally built the Dynamic Overhype today and I've got to say that I like it.  I'm having some issue with the tone control not working quite right.  It sounds misbiased when all the way down and it cuts off the signal when it's all the way up.  In between it gets to a point where it sounds great though.  My voltages on IC pins 5, 6 & 7 are weird (very low) compared to some that I've found here on the forum and I think that's probably what's going on.  I did replace R11 with a 1% 1k and I took Marty's advice and changed C9 to .1uf.  I checked my grounds and everything seems fine but the problem is still there.  Any ideas off the top of anyone's head?  As it sits I can get it to sound great, I just wonder if it would sound better if the tone control issue was resolved...

Thanks,
Andy Harrison
It's all about signal flow...
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bancika

Could you please submit it to official DIY Layout Creator gallery, it would be valuable addition. You can send .diy file to support[at]storm-software.co.yu
Tnx
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alteredsounds

Andy did you manage to fix the tone pot issue? I've got exactly the same issue and for the life of me cant understand it?  Anyone else see any obvious problem?

Cheers,
Nick,

hairyandy

Quote from: alteredsounds on August 27, 2006, 02:48:58 PM
Andy did you manage to fix the tone pot issue? I've got exactly the same issue and for the life of me cant understand it?  Anyone else see any obvious problem?

Cheers,
Nick,

Nick,

No, I haven't had a chance to screw with it since I built it.  It sounds pretty good right now though if the tone control is in the right spot.  It's just the two extreme ends of the pot that are screwy...
Andy Harrison
It's all about signal flow...
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alteredsounds

Thanks for the reply Andy, my tone pot problem is more extreme, I have one narrow spot where the effect works, anywhere else it makes a strange noise as I turn the pot and all effect disapears.  Any ideas?

alteredsounds

Andy, Tone problem solved, there need's to be a trace break in the middle of C10.  Works Great now :)

hairyandy

Andy Harrison
It's all about signal flow...
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Torchy

Its already there, but greyed-out so you could miss it.

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