Russian Compressor Build?

Started by markm, August 27, 2006, 12:36:44 AM

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markm

Check this out guys;

http://www.sugardas.lt/~igoramps/article60.html

Looks kinda Dynacomp-ish huh?
That transistor setup with P channel Fets seems strange.
Wonder how it sounds??

blanik


DDD

It sounds great.
The author is a famous Russian FET guru. All of his creatures are masterpieces.
So pls don't hesitate.
Too old to rock'n'roll, too young to die

moosapotamus

Too many components... and, if it's only a guitar compressor... well, there's already plenty of them to go around. ;)

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markm

I'm a bit confused about the P-Channel FETS in there + it appears in the layout the cases of the trannies have a pad for ground  ???

Medved

#5
It sounds great. Yes, it is a bit more complex than 2 trannies. :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
P channel regulator is a know-how of  the author. It completely eliminates the penetration of control signal in the sound.
Any more questions? :icon_mrgreen:
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markm

Sure  ;D
What can be used as a sub....if anything?

Jay Doyle

That looks like an incredibly well thought out design which I bet would sound really good. Good A/D network, use of SRRP stages for gain and tone...

If I had the time, I would build it.

markm

Right now I have the time......just not the right parts I think  :icon_cry:

Seljer

theres some soundclips at the bottom (you have to rename the extension abc to mp3) which do sound really good

markm

Maybe Mr. Hammer can lend a couple of ideas for parts substitutions?? (hint-hint  :icon_lol:)

Medved

QuoteWhat can be used as a sub....if anything?
What is "sub"?

Quoteparts substitutions
T1 KP303E<--> 2N5458, 2N5459 ( VGS(OFF) = 4...5V )
T2, T3, Т4 KP303A, KP303>|< <--> J201
T6 KP103E<--> 2N5020
Silicon diodes D2,D3 1N4148
Op-amp LM324
Pt1,Pt2<--> J271, 2N5461, 2N5462, J175, J174, 2N5115
pt1,pt2 -dual p-jfet. With discrete p-JFETs some minor tuning is needed.

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markm

You got it!
Subs =  substitutions.

I guess that when substituting this pt1,pt2 -dual p-jfet., there would perhaps be some bias issues with the P-Fets.
My unknowing guess is, when using the Pfet chip, they would be matched.
Correct?

markm

Searched on mouser and came up with this;

http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm393.pdf

They are referring to it as a comparator.
Don't know if this is correct though as the Russian number doesn't seem to cross very well  :icon_confused:

Medved

LM324, not 393.

QuoteI guess that when substituting this pt1,pt2 -dual p-jfet., there would perhaps be some bias issues with the P-Fets.
My unknowing guess is, when using the Pfet chip, they would be matched.
Correct?
Absolutely. Trannies mathing or tuning some resistors values is needed with discrete jfets.
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markm

Quote from: Medved on August 27, 2006, 01:17:29 PM
LM324, not 393.

Quote

No No,
The 393 would substitute the Pfet chip КР504НТ3(4).
LM324 is no problem.

Medved

#16
КР504НТ3 is a dual p-channel Jfet.
pT2 -any p-channel JFET with Vcutoff=3..5v (2..6 is acceptabe but THD of regulator will increase)
pT1- any p-channel JFET with Vcutoff=1.5..5v
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markm

The Google translator is fairly good however,
Some of the text I don't understand still but, If I figured this out correctly by the pictures, if using individual Pfets then
that would account for the trim pot in one of the illustrations.

Medved

"You should trim the value of Ra3 if using discrete p-jfets. The method is:
1)Set threshold to max resistance.
2)By changing the value of Ra3 set the voltage on the gate of Pt2 equal to its cut-off voltage."
That's all you need. :)
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markm