Srambler for bass

dacaumodo · September 02, 2006, 01:01:44 PM

Hi all

I'm soon going to start on a scrambler I'm building for a bass player friend of mine. I'll use GGG's layout probably. Should I change some of the components' values for bass? Or is it intially a bass FX?

Thanks

Guillaume

vanessa · September 02, 2006, 01:34:33 PM

I would build a Bass Brassmaster for them over the Scrambler (or modified for bass). Check out GEOFX for the layout and schematic. You friend will thank you for it.

lowstar · September 02, 2006, 01:35:41 PM

hey vanessa,
have your built your´s yet ?

cheers,
lowstar

Elektrojänis · September 02, 2006, 01:43:50 PM

Scrambler should pass the lowest frequencies off a bass gutar in standard tuning just fine. I don't know how it would sound with bass though. The usability will depend on what kid of sound you are after anyway.

dacaumodo · September 02, 2006, 04:56:28 PM

Actually I just pointed my friend to the soundclips on tonefrenzy and those posted in this forum by a guy who fit his scrambler in a wah enclosure (sorry I can't remember his name right now, but it's one great mod!): he loved them. He plays something halfway between hardcore, stoner, etc. So the noisy and unpredictable side of the scrambler would suit him fine. I'll try it anyway and see how it turns out. I might give a shot at the Brassmaster though: do yu have any soundclips Vanessa?
thanks
Guillaume

nordine · September 02, 2006, 05:05:42 PM

he shouldn't have any problem w/ the scrambler, cause it has a clean blending feature which restitues the missing lows (if any)... i've already build it , and works wonderful on bass, pretty tight sound

dacaumodo · September 02, 2006, 05:14:56 PM

Thanks Nordine.
Guillaume

lowstar · September 02, 2006, 05:16:52 PM

actually it was one of my first builds...i really did not like it for bass, and used the enclosure for a bsiabII.
the brass master, on the other hand, is one of the circuits that even got a painted enclosure...

cheers,
lowstar

nordine · September 02, 2006, 08:35:19 PM

Quote from: dacaumodo on September 02, 2006, 05:14:56 PM
Thanks Nordine.
Guillaume

np

here you'll find some samples for the brassmaster:
http://www.moosapotamus.net/THINGS/brassmaster.htm

i just can't appreciate the brassmaster, sounds too ortodox for me

Meanderthal · September 02, 2006, 11:54:58 PM

The brassmaster works as intended- makes you sound like a tuba- hence the brass... Think Jack Bruce...

The scrambler is more like an mxr blue box- all wild and wacky... Think Korn...

2 different beasts for sure.

dacaumodo · September 03, 2006, 10:17:59 AM

After hearing the sound samples, I think the scrambler would work better for my friend, it's wilder, crazier. Although I might build a brassmaster later on.

Cheers!
g

Bernardduur · September 03, 2006, 11:08:09 AM

The Brassmaster is a great fuzz for bass, I didn't like the Scrambler that much.....

Still, the Scrambler is far easier to build

oldrocker · September 03, 2006, 02:36:03 PM

I've never tried the Scrambler with a bass but for guitar this is a great pedal. With the blend pot all the way down and both pots fully counter clockwase this makes for a nice sounding distortion pedal. You don't even need to use the octave up part. I used it set like that for a live gig and a few guitar players in the crowd asked what pedal that was. It's funny since one of them had a Scrambler and never used it like that and couldn't wait to get home and try it.

dacaumodo · September 03, 2006, 06:32:53 PM

Exactly, this pedal has a magic something about it!

vanessa · September 04, 2006, 11:11:43 PM

Quote from: oldrocker on September 03, 2006, 02:36:03 PM
With the blend pot all the way down and both pots fully counter clockwase this makes for a nice sounding distortion pedal.

Do you mean with everything shut off on the pedal?

What the heck do the 47k resistors to ground do (right before the blend pot)?

oldrocker · September 04, 2006, 11:40:41 PM

Yes, with both the the texture and blend turned down this effect has a nice bassy distortion. As for the 47k I'm not sure to honest. By the way as an octave up pedal it's great too. If you haven't tried this one yet I highly recommend it. It has some interesting sounds in it for such a simple build.

vanessa · September 05, 2006, 10:05:55 AM

Quote from: oldrocker on September 04, 2006, 11:40:41 PM
Yes, with both the the texture and blend turned down this effect has a nice bassy distortion. As for the 47k I'm not sure to honest. By the way as an octave up pedal it's great too. If you haven't tried this one yet I highly recommend it. It has some interesting sounds in it for such a simple build.

Do you have the blend set full distortion or full clean signal?

Does anyone else know what the 47k resistors to ground do (right before the blend pot)?

oldrocker · September 05, 2006, 09:36:00 PM

Yes the blend is full distortion. I've got it wired backwards.

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