Discrete compressor. So simple.

Started by brett, October 09, 2006, 06:58:18 AM

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puzzle87

Try J201, but delete R5 (variant 2). And you have bit more noises.

Al Heeley

I've just put this circuit together and I'm not getting much compression noticable, also the sound is breaking up like a fuzz box on the edge of distorting. i've followed the tweaks for the trim pots as per the notes in this thread. Any advice would be muuch appreciated.

brett

Which circuit did you build?  The original one with 2 x BJTs and a MOSFET or the JFET one?
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Al Heeley

its the Jfet one = 3 X J201 and 1 x B170 - schematic calls it version 2

SirBlend12

It feels like a dumb question, but... where can I add in an attack control?

psychedelicfish

Quote from: brett on October 09, 2006, 06:58:18 AM


The schematic of a working prototype is below.




I can't seem to see the schematic
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Gram

Can I ask what kind of caps you are using for the non-polarised caps?
i.e. C1, C2, C5 and C7.

I don't have any ceramic caps of those values so it'd be handy to know before I buy...

Is film the way to go?

Cheers

G

duck_arse

nothing special about those parts, use poly of any description. box, greencap, styro, mustard, orange drop, tropical fish, whatever you've got/can get/can afford/can fit.
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knutolai

The picture of the original schematic seems to be broken. Is it only me or could you try to reupload it? Would love to give it a go

tubegeek

Quote from: knutolai on April 22, 2014, 02:46:15 PM
The picture of the original schematic seems to be broken. Is it only me or could you try to reupload it? Would love to give it a go

Note that the bulk of this thread is quite old.

Internet Archive to the rescue!

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Kipper4

Do Let us know how it goes please Gram and welcome to the forum.
Rich
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duck_arse

also have a look at this thread, a somewhat similar in principle at least.

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=99892.0
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Kipper4

Another old bump up....it's on the breadboard now
Problem = lack of output.
It is passing signal. but it's less than unity. I can hear the compression
Fet ver 2

Q1                 Q2                      Q3                      Q4
j201               BS170                 J201                    J201
D  5V4            D  0V                  D  9V                   D  9V
G  0               G  1V9                 G  0                    G  1V
S  0V2            S  0                    S  2V                   S  2V

Do they look like ballpark please?
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Kipper4

#33
Schematic is the fet version reply 16 page 1
subs
My R9 is a 2k2
25k Q1 drain trimmer.
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Kipper4

If I make R12 33k it seem a little better.
I'll post the new voltages and see if anyone can see a problem.



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Kipper4

Near as dammed it the same voltages as previous post.
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midwayfair

That FET attenuator is going to load the guitar quite a bit. Unless you aren't compressing at all, it's going to be well below 1M. You could get more input headroom and a lower output impedance by using a BJT instead of the FET. Just move the FET to before the input cap and then move the pulldown resistor to be a base -> collector feedback resistor and you don't even have to add any parts.

The JFET for the rectifier buffer is also a waste of the FET -- might as well be a BJT to save a buck. Especially considering you've used a third type of transistor for it.

Ray Ring's MOSFET compressor has some thoughts on using the MOSFET as the attenuator. There's also a way to use a regular FET like the 2N5457, but it would require more parts for reasons I don't feel like typing out right now.
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Kipper4

Brilliant thanks Jon
I'll work on it some more tommorow.
I have a buffer before it already because of the loading.
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GibsonGM

This looks promising - please post a schematic when you get something, Rich!   
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Kipper4

I think I totally messed up here. I havent breadboarded it like this yet.
Is this what you meant Jon?

Ma throats as dry as an overcooked kipper.


Smoke me a Kipper. I'll be back for breakfast.

Grey Paper.
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