Boosting your Amp only by using a Coiled Cable?

Started by Hendrik1, October 19, 2006, 10:03:24 AM

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Peter Snowberg

Eschew paradigm obfuscation

sfr

They made a coiled cable that *doesn't* cut highs?  When I use a coiled cable, that's the whole reason I'm using it.  The tone sucking added warmth works out great with some of my rigs. 
sent from my orbital space station.

Paul Marossy

QuoteBoosting your Amp by using a Coiled Cable?

:icon_rolleyes:

MikeH

Was he saying "campy" or "crappy"?

Well hey, they used a bullet casing for the shield; so you know it must me good. :icon_lol:
"Sounds like a Fab Metal to me." -DougH

Harry

That guy's a joke. I use a Vox Coiled Cable, but not because "it sounds good" or because "it's like plugging in an effects unit". I like it just because it's nice and tidy and doesn't get tangled very badly.

jonathan perez

^^
for those of you who often misfire your rifles indoors, near your guitar gear.  ;)


the first cable i ever had was a really cool, but short coily cable. in the same bag (dont ask what i was looking for) was a purple cable, that i went on to use for close to 9 years. i dont know what happened to that coily cable, but it always made me feel like a young, chubby, mexican hendrix. purple cable included.  :D
no longer the battle of midway...(i left that band)...

i hate signatures with gear lists/crap for sale....

i am a wah pervert...ask away...

Hendrik1

Here is some underbuild article, so there is some proof in using a curled cable,
but he is not trying to get clear high's..

http://terrydownsmusic.com/technotes/guitarcables/guitarcables.htm

Mark Hammer

To be fair, I doubt many of us could control our "hyperbole factor" if Mike Molenda was shoving a mic in our face and we knew we'd be on GPTV.

That said, taking less away from the original output signal CAN sound like a bit of a volume boost and tonal change.  A decent unity-gain buffer can do that.  A decent cord can do that.  Hell, a short cord can do that.  Restoring upper treble can increase the apparent volume of a guitar, but just keep in mind the apparent boost is fairly modest.

One of the reasons we all used curly cords in "the old days" was because they moved with us nicely and were neat and tidy.  That it was more typical for a musician to stand pretty close to their amp (watch the Beatles at Shea Stadium and you'll have an idea) made it all the more workable.  As amps started to have cascaded gain stages and were made in order to distort with high output pickups, the  high inductance/high capacitance lowpass filtering action of curly cords started to provide an advantage in terms of compensating for potential fizz by rolling off the highs - a bit like the use of 250k pots instead of 500k on Strats.  Keep in mind as well that a great many fuzz pedals in the "good old days" never had a tone control to roll back sizzle (Many still don't).Trouble is, of course, that you can't get back what you never had, so if you DIDN'T want the "warming" effect of a curcly cord when you tried to pick clean and crisp, you were SOL because the curly cord didn't particular care that that's what you were trying to do.

In that regard, a decent quality curly cord provides the best of both worlds (neatness and clarity) if you have some means of taming the fizz when you need to.

Alex C

I would like to compare this to the Visual Sound interview with R.G. if I may (http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=50662.0). 
This interview (coiled cable) sounds like a sales pitch, complete with name-dropping (Queens of the Stone Age mentioned at least twice, Prince, etc.) and a sense of urgency and persuasion.

R.G. and Bob Weil, on the other hand, list feature after feature, state facts, say why their product is good, and can confidently describe the practical aspects of their product.

I don't mean to say that there is nothing to coiled cables or high-frequency rolloff, just that I think that the designer's confidence in his product is a testament to its quality and value, and that seems to be evidenced here.

On the other hand, I'd love to hear R.G. use the phrase "campy and fun," or "opening a new frequency window."  :)

-Alex