Adjusting the tension in a wah rocker

Started by YouAre, January 29, 2007, 01:10:05 AM

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YouAre

Well.....i figured out how to take off the top of the rocker thanks to you guys.....now i ran into another problem.....

i want to be able to manually adjust the tension of the rocker. I'm sure that strap that goes over the axle (in the vox/dunlop style casing) holds it down for tension, but adjusting it by adjusting how tight that strap is held down, would be a bitch (considering how the head of the screws is on the top side, under the rocker) Taking it off is easy....but adjusting? I know dunlop's newer pedals have an adjustable tension by way of an allen head bolt under the rocker.

I came up with my DIY version, and i'd like you guys to tell me if if you see any faults.



Oh and by base of pedal....i meant the top of the base ;D



With my idea, the bolt pushes into the axle, but the felt is there to avoid any nasty grinding.

What do you guys thing?
~Murad

Paul Marossy

I have my doubts that will work satisfactorily...

YouAre

Paul i was hoping you'd chime in, having built multiple wah rockers before...What makes you think it won't work well?

YouAre

also i see that the dunlop calls it "adjusting the torque" so tension was probably the wrong word to use....

GibsonGM

The felt would probably get eaten pretty quickly...why not try a poly block or something, on the end of the bolt?

I have had luck just tightening the tension arm from inside, using a deep socket...the screw has never turned on me (maybe I'm just lucky...).   
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YouAre

Quote from: GibsonGM on January 29, 2007, 04:14:01 PM
The felt would probably get eaten pretty quickly...why not try a poly block or something, on the end of the bolt?

I have had luck just tightening the tension arm from inside, using a deep socket...the screw has never turned on me (maybe I'm just lucky...).   

a poly block? whats that? Can you link me to an example?

Paul Marossy

That's exactly what I was thinking - the felt would get chewed up too easily. I was also thinking along the lines of some kind of tough plastic bushing. I think it would need to have a "half-pipe" profile for it to be most effective. I think that could work...

petemoore

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