Roger Mayer Octavia Octavio

[johnabraham]

Check out RM's web site under Octavia.

[johnabraham]

http://www.roger-mayer.co.uk/octavia.htm

It's the box in Seattle.

[johnabraham]

Pre-Tycobrahe for sure, and designed well before it was implemented into the Helios recording studio consoles within Olympic sound studios by the way.

Those who can invent do, those who can't invent copy... end of story.

[R.G.]

Those who can invent do, those who can't invent copy... end of story.

Life is so clean and clear when you're young.   

[slacker]

Those who can invent do, those who can't invent copy... end of story.

So says the man who's done quite nicely for himself selling fuzzface and univibe clones... end of story.

[analogguru]

...and designed well before it was implemented into the Helios recording studio consoles within Olympic sound studios by the way

Oh, some new and interesting information: the Helios-console was a big Octave-Fuzz-Box....

Those who can invent do, those who can't invent copy... end of story.

Hmmm.....so:
In 1976 the Proco Rat was the only distortion box which used a LM308 and a 6db/Octave low-pass-filter after a two diode-clipping-stage....you can find a schematic here:

http://analogguru.an.funpic.de/schematics/Proco_TheRat-1986.gif

Here:
http://www.roger-mayer.co.uk/mongoose.htm
you can read, that the Roger Mayer Moongose Fuzz was developed in 1985.

As you can see in the schematic:
http://analogguru.an.funpic.de/schematics/RogerMayer_Mongoose.gif
it uses a LM308, a two-diode-clipping-stage and a 6dB/Octave low-pass-filtering afterwards-

Here:
http://www.roger-mayer.co.uk/spitfire.htm
you can read, that "the Roger Mayer Spitfire is the latest fuzz guitar effect in the Rocket Series..." so it was developed after 1985.

When you look at the schematic:
http://analogguru.an.funpic.de/schematics/RogerMayer_Spitfire.gif
you can see, that it uses a LM301 (similar to LM308), a two diode-clipping-stage and a 6db/octave low-pass-Filter.

very similar.....

Those who can invent do, those who can't invent copy... end of story.

Alltogether this can only mean, that the Proco-Rat was derived from Roger Mayer´s Moongose and Spitfire Fuzz.

Welcome to:  "Back to the Future" !!!   (This is a film, not a song by "Ten Years After")

Under this circumstances you are right with this statement:

Those who can invent do, those who can't invent copy... end of story.

analogguru

[Pedal love]

[Pedal love]

Whatever?

[johnabraham]

analogguru, The Helios-Olympic config was published in text books earlier. The text book configs were developed further... I stand corrected in implying the Octavia was implemented into Olympic above in the thread-  not the case. Two seperate issues, or forms of design.

[analogguru]

The Helios-Olympic config was published in text books earlier.

This is what I am interested since this two threads:

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=52731.0
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=53494.0

where I ask for the original publication of the Helios-Olympic config....
I believe, Roger will know the "text book" in which this was published.
And I like to see this original publication, that I can decide for myself how much and what has been "developed further" in this "Two seperate issues or forms of design".

Thanks in advance for your help

analogguru

[analogguru]

@Pedal Love

nice picture, do you have also an inside-view of the same quality ?
sadly the inside-photo on the RM-site is very poor quality...

analogguru

[Pedal love]

[Pedal love]

Gee analoggoofru, why don't you catch a speeding train?

[analogguru]

@pedestrian loverboy

Thank you for your tip, in the last minute a catched the speeding train, and inside there was a friendly guy waiting who gave me this:



So what can I recognize there ?

a perf-board, an iron-core output transformer, a 9V-clip, a battery-holder, 4 philips-electrolytics, some film capacitors (one Ero), several resistors, manufactured by different european companies (Piher, Roederstein etc.) ...really nice, and not far away from Helios amplifier or a tyco octavia...

analogguru

[Pedal love]

Pedestrian Loverboy? Ouch you really told me Analoggoofoo          

[analogguru]

sorry about the typing error...Did I get something wrong ?
Isn´t "Pedal Love" the short form of "Pedestrial  Loverboy  ?

Ok, lets go for serious talk:

Hollywood Pedal Pictures proudly presents:  Jimi live on stage together with wedged Octavio !



Sorry abut my question, but sadly I am not a guitarist:

As far as I can see, we have here Jimi and a guitar.
From the guitar is a cable to the Vox Wah (McCoy ?).
From the Vox Wah is a cable to a wedged Octavio and from there to a Fuzz Face.
the "pink"-cable has nothing to do with the setup....

Has this been the typical or "normal" setup and if yes, why this way ?
I would (at least) assume, that the wah would be after the Fuzz-Face...

thanks...

analogguru

[MartyMart]

Is the extra pedal far right a volume or additional wah ??


Oh, and what's all this "bickering" about boys ? !
Roger made some cool stuff, but last time I spoke to him he was quite "rude" to
be honest, i wasn't impressed.
Dealers say the same BTW

MM

[ncc]

I believe the pedal on the right is the speed control for the UniVibe.

Norm

[RLBJR65]

Early 70's stuff, that pedal on the right looks kind of like one of those Morley / Tel-Ray oil can pedal effects. Echo Volume, Rotating Wah??
There is a pic of one in this thread http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=33576.0

It's hard to tell in the pic if thats all 1 piece or if there is a monitor or something else in front of a second wah or volume pedal?!?

[petemoore]

 That thing in front of..'monitor? to the lower right, certainly does look like a chrome wah pedal.
  Phaser speed controlled in Wah Case makes a great pedal.