Behringer at it again???

[claskow]

Behringer's website has announced more BOSS knock-offs - this time, the DD-6 Digital Delay, BF-3 Flanger, PH-3 Phaser, PS-5 Super Shifter and RV-5 Reverb.  I have a few of their knock-offs and it seems hit-and-miss.  The UF100 flanger does flange, but has valleys in the rise...the noise reducer is better than my overdrive when it comes to buzz.  The UM100 on the other hand, is a rocking little box for $20.  Still - nothing beats my old BOSS and MXR pedals.

So - what next since it looks like they are now going after the higher-end BOSS units?

[jonathan perez]

what do you expect for 40 bucks?

[claskow]

Should have used it to getting the BF-3 I have now...

Live and learn.

[db]

I have a few of their knock-offs...

don't encourage them then...

[e178453]

Guess I'm in a minority opinion position here-I buy them off ebay for $20+$6 shipping and have fun with them.  Pointed out before I play Asian Gibson and Fender copies, might as well try MXR and Boss copies, too.  Was just debating whether to buy behringer "ultra tremolo" for that price?  Anyone try one?
Anyone tried reverse engineering a schematic for the behringer knock-offs for reference purposes?
scott

[puretube]

yes... (click here)




BTW: lately they go: "Classic", cc. enclosures...

[Cardboard Tube Samurai]

I bought their Vintage Tube Overdrive and I can't fault it. However, as was mentioned, the flanger is shit. I pulled it apart and tweaked the trimpots and now I have a pedal that makes some awesome sounds, even when not plugged into a guitar

[Processaurus]

Looks like they're getting up on line 6's biznass now as well, though they can't make a double acting footswitch at their price point (or maybe L6 has a patent on the design?)

Clone a pedal?  Shame on them.  Clone a company's entire product line?  Shame on us.

[Ronsonic]

Buying Behringer is like those old off-brand albums filled with almost covers of almost hit songs by a band of studio cats working under some name that sorta sounds like somebody who had a hit recently: "Liverpool Records proudly presents the Rolling Bugs playing their new hit songs 'You Wanna Hold My Hand' and 'Under Your Thumb!!!!'"

Just get the real thing rather than add another container full of cynical debris to our already overvast landfill. That is where they will end up. Inevitably. A pedal you or I build has some possibility of being used generations from now to create music. The Behringer is landfill and nothing more than a toy or diversion in the meanwhile. The electric guitar is a musical instrument. The amp and cables and any pedals are a part of that instrument. Behringer doesn't make instruments, they make a thing they can profitably sell for a lot cheaper than a thing that it looks like.

</rant>

Ron

[Cardboard Tube Samurai]

I don't buy pedals anymore since I know how to make them now

[DiamondDog]

I don't buy pedals anymore since I know how to make them now

(Not to you personally, CTS, but as an example for everyone to consider-)

The difference is... What??? Maybe that the profit ends up in the hands of the electronics parts store down the road, not Behringer.

There's not a lot of difference between a SD-1 and a TS-808. Let's bag Boss too.

Let s/he who is without a Tube Screamer or Big Muff derivation on their pedal board cast the first stone.

[petemoore]

  Guy didn't seem impressed at all when I told him I'd been told "Always try a pedal out before you buy it"

[StephenGiles]

What is all this holyer than thou attitude? The behringer thing is of no consequence, there are far more important things to lose sleep over, ans as Ton has proved - the cloner can be cloned with even more tricks!

[Ronsonic]

I don't buy pedals anymore since I know how to make them now

(Not to you personally, CTS, but as an example for everyone to consider-)

The difference is... What??? Maybe that the profit ends up in the hands of the electronics parts store down the road, not Behringer.

There's not a lot of difference between a SD-1 and a TS-808. Let's bag Boss too.

Let s/he who is without a Tube Screamer or Big Muff derivation on their pedal board cast the first stone.

The difference is that the Behringer is built in the cheapest possible way from the cheapest parts on the planet that will generally survive the one year warranty. CTS builds things that will last and will help create music. Behringer builds things to sell without regard to its utility, service life or any musical considerations.

Accuse me of subscribing to mojo, but the nutrition and enjoyment of a meal starts with the intent and good wishes of the cook. The recipe should contain things that people like to eat in combination and does not need to be completely unprecedented to be new and have its own unique flavor and value. That doesn't mean that Olive Garden is stealing because it bases something on a traditional recipe, but it does mean they are generally useless to me.

There are actually aspects of Behringer designs that I cannot trace to any other source. IOW, something original. And the company does firmly stand behind their product warranty and their service centers in a way that other manufacturers would do well to emulate. Behringer products are thoroughly engineered and extremely competent at their price points. Doesn't mean I have to like them. Doesn't mean I see any advantage in a $20 pedal that will fall apart.

Ron

[black mariah]

Just get the real thing rather than add another container full of cynical debris to our already overvast landfill. That is where they will end up. Inevitably. A pedal you or I build has some possibility of being used generations from now to create music. The Behringer is landfill and nothing more than a toy or diversion in the meanwhile. The electric guitar is a musical instrument. The amp and cables and any pedals are a part of that instrument. Behringer doesn't make instruments, they make a thing they can profitably sell for a lot cheaper than a thing that it looks like.

Anything is an instrument if you have the skill to make it such.

Those little Supro amps were "toys" too. Didn't stop Jimmy Page, did it?

[MetalGuy]

I don't buy pedals anymore since I know how to make them now

[sfr]

Let s/he who is without a Tube Screamer or Big Muff derivation on their pedal board cast the first stone.

Woot! That's me!

*throws stone*


Sorry. 

[puretube]

anyone boot-eeek??? :

[MarcoMike]

Please someone tell me this is not a mutron3 workalike!!!!



Anyway behringer's prices are not so low anymore, on their website this one is marked 59 euro...

higher quality or higher popularity?

[StephenGiles]

The PH3 clone is the business - barberpole phasing for all!