ACDC style overdrive

[Rattlehead]

Hey, i'm just in love with angus's sound, i would like to know what overdrive can do the work?
i have a 1985 fender tele and a fender hot rod deville

tnx

[lenwood]

I suggest:  runoffgroove.com 

THOR

http://runoffgroove.com/thor.html

[blanik]

i think it's pretty hard getting an Angus Young sound with single coils, you would get halfway there by changing you Tele PUs with a DiMar Chopper T or Seymour Hot Rails...

R.

[Meanderthal]

 Long ago, in a land far away there were these 18 watt amps made by these folks called Marshall. For a little while. Some maniac in a British scoolboy costume discovered one in an ancient crypt...

Anyway, the fine folks at ROG have been kind enough to develop the Eighteen project, which seems to be Angus-in-a-box:

http://www.runoffgroove.com/eighteen.html

Now, I'm pretty sure that Tele ain't gonna getcha into Angus land without a humbucker mod... it's a Tele! You'd probably (I imagine) wind up with 'Hank Hill' overdrive using a Tele & Fender rig... a nice sound, but not the intended goal...

  An EQ would certainly help ya get closer!

[bioroids]

I have a Gibson SG Standard with red finish and looking for a tele sound. Maybe we can swap guitars! Only I live in Argentina

Miguel

[jmusser]

I play a fat strat through a 30 watt Crate SS Amp, and can get the Angus sound using the 3 Legged Dog. The 3 Legged Dog makes SS Amps sound very tube like.

[vanessa]

Long ago, in a land far away there were these 18 watt amps made by these folks called Marshall. For a little while. Some maniac in a British scoolboy costume discovered one in an ancient crypt...

I've always read Angus used JTM45 Marshall Plexi's (w/SS rectifier) in the studio and 100W's studio/live.

[Rattlehead]

k tnx, same about mini humbuckers.
i'm gonna buy a bridge and neck mini humbuckers, which will give me a more "gibsony" sound?

[Meanderthal]

Long ago, in a land far away there were these 18 watt amps made by these folks called Marshall. For a little while. Some maniac in a British scoolboy costume discovered one in an ancient crypt...

I've always read Angus used JTM45 Marshall Plexi's (w/SS rectifier) in the studio and 100W's studio/live.

I had assumed a rolling Australian beer can would be enough to indicate that, at very least, I wasn't being serious... guess I'll have to try harder next time...

If the Eighteen is a bad choice in pedals for an Angus sound, by all means please stop me before I mislead the guy.

[tcobretti]

On previous posts I have called my Eighteen "Angus in a Box".  It is pure AC/DC, and I would imagine could get very close with a Tele if the EQ section at the end of the circuit was tweaked.

[choklitlove]

i heard he used marshalls in the studio.  he cranked them, then put them all the way against facing the wall.  that sort of explains his extremely hot sound.  hot as in sensitive.

[vanessa]

I had assumed a rolling Australian beer can would be enough to indicate that, at very least, I wasn't being serious... guess I'll have to try harder next time...

I hear you, I'll loosen up a bit... 

If the Eighteen is a bad choice in pedals for an Angus sound, by all means please stop me before I mislead the guy.

Hmmmm... I really thought you could until I got a chance to jam on the real deal (JTM45) with a nice 4x12 cab. Saying a pedal can get you that tone is like saying pigs can fly (maybe Marshall Majors can, in the back of commercial airliners?). Not only do you have to figure in the whole Bassman w/EL34's + SS rectifier but add the tight compressed sound of a Marshall 4x12 (greenbacks?) and a Gibson SG with HB's.
Just trying to get that 4x12 sound out of an open back combo... It's just not going to happen.
Time to invest in a new rig. Seriously if you really want that tone you owe it to yourself. The JTM45 w/4x12 cab really is all that and a bag of chips (as they say).

[Meanderthal]

 Yep, you're right about the Fender vs Marshall amp sounds! Way different, and one can never really sound like the other. Apples and oranges. Like trying to get an Ampeg to sound like an Acoustic(I tried that, drove myself nuts)...

[Rodgre]

I once did a one-off gig with some friends playing a set of AC/DC tunes and other than working on my left-hand vibrato technique, I nailed the tone with, get this: a semi-hollow Korean Dearmond Starfire Special with single coils, plugged into a decked solid state Kustom 150 covered in black tuck-and-roll.





You would have NEVER thought the tone was in that recipe, but it was killer. I even had a 1964 SG to play at the gig (played a bunch of tunes with it for visual authenticity of course, but tone-wise, the Starfire and the Kustom were king!

Roger

[FastJunkie]

judging by the rattlehead name I assume you like Megadeth 

[brett]

Hi
IMO the thor and other "simulators" are "filters" that give a taste of the real thing.  But there's a big difference between a milkshake made with artificial banana flavour and a smoothie with real bananas in it.  Or vegetarian "meat" and meat from a cow.

I have the real amps: a DIY 18 watter and a Marshall JTM60 (similar, but obviously not identical to a JTM45).
Both are quite good for ACDC sounds.  To me, the 18 watter is more like the early sounds.  Unless it's totally cranked, the gain isn't too high, and the distortion has heaps of "body".  You can see 18 watters (I think) in the "TNT" filmclip.  One discussion that I read said that Angus plays an 18W and Malcolm an 18W modded for higher output (20W, and maybe a cleaner sound?).
For the later sounds (Thunderstruck etc), the 18 watter would be ok, but the higher gain of a JTM is much closer to the sound.

Also, if you don't want to spend bucks on a new SG or LP, there are lots of cheap RGZs (with H-S-H) in pawn shops.  I've got a Yamaha, and it achieves a wide range of sounds between the classic 3 singles and 2 humbuckers.
cheers 

[Dylfish]

Long ago, in a land far away there were these 18 watt amps made by these folks called Marshall. For a little while. Some maniac in a British scoolboy costume discovered one in an ancient crypt...

just for the record, none of us aussies have ever drunk fosters

[tcobretti]

Long ago, in a land far away there were these 18 watt amps made by these folks called Marshall. For a little while. Some maniac in a British scoolboy costume discovered one in an ancient crypt...

just for the record, none of us aussies have ever drunk fosters

just for the record, none of us americans have either!

Actually, I love the stuff, but I was training with some Australian soldiers, and all they would drink was Budweiser!

[Barcode80]

i can get great angus tones with very little pedal dirt, but i play a dual HB strat through a 100 watt carvin x100b tube head and a carvin 4x12. sweet.

[vanessa]

Long ago, in a land far away there were these 18 watt amps made by these folks called Marshall. For a little while. Some maniac in a British scoolboy costume discovered one in an ancient crypt...

just for the record, none of us aussies have ever drunk fosters

just for the record, none of us americans have either!

Actually, I love the stuff, but I was training with some Australian soldiers, and all they would drink was Budweiser!

I loved to drink Fosters before they started brewing it in Canada for import into the USA. The original Aussie import was bar none one of my favorites! Too bad for us uplanders...