I thought Dr. Boogey was a DIY pedal...

Started by changes, April 12, 2007, 04:56:04 PM

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changes

I guess I was wrong.
I went in a friend's band rehearsal and the guitarist had an effect pedal writing dr boogey on top.
At first I thought he built it and said wow great build cause I really liked the sound (much better than my dr. boogie build) but he replied that he bought it from a music store. :icon_eek:
anyway he said I can have a quick look at it in a week or so.
can't wait...

CHANGES

John Lyons

Hmmm... Post a pick if you can.
Maybe an enterprising fellow made one and sells them at that shop?

John
Basic Audio Pedals
www.basicaudio.net/

dschwartz

what??

our beloved dr boogie is not an exclusive unit anymore??? damn!!!!
and the worst part is that it sounds better...
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Mark Hammer

How many musical products have the word "boogie" or "boogee" in them?  Lots.  Probably as many as have the word "metal" or "master" or "funk" in them.  How many have the word "Dr." in them?  Plenty.  So, I don't doubt for one moment that someone somewhere has a product they have called "Dr. Boogie".  name similarity implies relatively little.  Me, I'm keeping my eyes peeled for the "Dr. Funkmaster". :icon_wink: or was that the "Metal Boogeemaster" or the "Masterfunk XXX"....or maybe it was the Danelectro "Sandwichmaster" (their multi-fx debuted at Musikmesse 2007) ?  :icon_wink:

I'm reminded here of Bart Simpson's obsession with the video game "Blood Storm".  The title was intended to poke fun at just about every first-person shooter out there, and damn if it didn't sound vaguely similar to just about everything with a 2-page ad in PC Gamer.

Barcode80

yeah, i agree, probably need to wait until he can take a look at the innards before we assume the boogey has made mainstream.

mattpocket

The napalm pedals dude from ebay UK sells his pedals in my local music shop (The Rhythm House, Stoke on Trent, UK), so isnt it possible that some other DIYer is doing something similar...

Matt

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QSQCaito

Quote from: Mark Hammer on April 13, 2007, 10:17:58 AM
I'm reminded here of Bart Simpson's obsession with the video game "Blood Storm".  The title was intended to poke fun at just about every first-person shooter out there, and damn if it didn't sound vaguely similar to just about everything with a 2-page ad in PC Gamer.

Haha.. you made me remember a joke in a newspaper.. of the one that translate movie titles to spanish(which of course literal translation won't work)

It was like Battle for the HONOR. man of HONOR. HONOR man. HONOR...

Bye!

PS Sry for OT
D.A.C

YouAre

OLCircuits sold the dr. boogey kit for a while before he had to stop

John Lyons

OLC sells a soldano (SLO Century) based pedal curently. (pretty much the exact same circuit as the Dr boogey.

John

Basic Audio Pedals
www.basicaudio.net/

olcircuits

#9
Let's not go around and wildly point fingers at people. ;)

Quote from: YouAre on April 13, 2007, 11:00:50 PM
OLCircuits sold the dr. boogey kit for a while before he had to stop

What I sold was Gringo's Dual Rec circuit, which had been around for some time. They're both taken straight from the orange/red channel of the Mesa amp. I confused the two by listing the optional components for the Dr. Boogey.

Quote from: Basicaudio on April 14, 2007, 02:14:00 AM
OLC sells a soldano (SLO Century) based pedal curently. (pretty much the exact same circuit as the Dr boogey.

John

No, it's not pretty much the exact same circuit as the Dr. Boogey. The Slow Century that I offer was initially developed by runoffgroove.com in 2004, based on the Soldano SLO-100. They shared their unreleased circuit with me, which I refined further before offering the project as a kit. The guys at runoffgroove.com didn't base it on the Dr. Boogey and neither did I. 6 FETs, different tonestack... there are too many differences to make a statement like that.

I've earned the respect I have among the circuit designers. Please keep my name out of this witch hunt.

markm

What I find ammusing here is that many feel as though emulating a "famous" amplifier circuit is such an "original" idea and be considered an original circuit!
I mean, especially the Boogie amp, it's very well known and with all the press that ROG's emulations have received, can we safely assume that there is truly ONLY 1 originator of this Dr.Boogey circuit??
I mean no offense to anyone here however, if this is the general consensus of the board then perhaps we here are a bit more naive than I originally thought.
This is just an opinion, mine, and is directed at no one in particular.....it's just a thought.  :-\

B Tremblay

Quote from: markm on April 14, 2007, 11:20:31 AM
What I find ammusing here is that many feel as though emulating a "famous" amplifier circuit is such an "original" idea and be considered an original circuit!

I completely agree.  Since the process of converting a tube amp to a FET-based circuit is rather simple, it stands to reason that two "designers" could be using the FET-by-numbers approach for the same vintage amp and the resulting circuits could be for the most part, identical.

It was for this very reason that runoffgroove.com moved away from FET-by-numbers conversions; anybody could do it once they understood the process.  That's not intended as a slight to any of the circuits published since then.  We wanted to share our fondness for the process and illustrate it for others, which we did by releasing several projects.  After seeing the popular response to them, we decided to pass the torch to other members of the community.  Finally, we've gone back and a developed "second generation" version of some projects, such as the Fetzer Valve Revisited, Thor, and Omega.
B Tremblay
runoffgroove.com

John Lyons

Ok, to clarify.
I'm not pointing any fingers.
Just making this statement:

The Soldando SLO 100 came first. Mesa stole/borrowed and "made it their own" with the Dual Rectifier. (both are very similar)
Then the Peavey 5150 came out which is also very similar.
My whole point is that they are similar.

I couldn't care less about getting down on someone for making a pedal with a similar topology. No ill will here. I guess the sentiment of the thread is what makes it seem so.
ROG and OLC are a good thing...
Peace!

John

Basic Audio Pedals
www.basicaudio.net/

olcircuits

Thanks for clarifying, John. My name was carelessly dragged through the mud by an overzealous person and I'm quick to put this sort of thing to rest now. Perhaps too quick. Carry on.

YouAre

Quote from: olcircuits on April 14, 2007, 10:27:59 AM
Let's not go around and wildly point fingers at people. ;)

Quote from: YouAre on April 13, 2007, 11:00:50 PM
OLCircuits sold the dr. boogey kit for a while before he had to stop

What I sold was Gringo's Dual Rec circuit, which had been around for some time. They're both taken straight from the orange/red channel of the Mesa amp. I confused the two by listing the optional components for the Dr. Boogey.

Oops i'm sorry for the mistake Mark. I hope you didn't think i was dragging your name through the mud. Haha i'm oblivious to the witch-hunt deal, i thought someone just made a mistake/didn't know about your kits, please disregard my error.

olcircuits

YouAre,

It's no problem. You and I... we're a-ok. Thank you for your reply.

PaulC

I could be wrong (happens a lot...), but I could swear I remember a pedal called Dr Boogie from 10 or so years ago.  I even remember seeing it in a GP article a few years back.  It kind of looked like on older style boogie with it graphics.  I even remeber something about boogie going after it.  Maybe this is what's for sale...

Later, PaulC
Heritage amps, Tim & timmy pedals
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changes

at last got the pedal in my hands today
the logo is something like crazy circuits
6 knobs , one mini switch
opened it up and is mostly covered with goop but i can clearly see 7 transistors in there.
4 of the pots have the same value as the dr boogie schem 2 only differ

coming up with photos and schem ,if possible to remove the goop
CHANGES

Ed G.

There was a Mini Boogee pedal out there for a while. I think Aron has or had one, and I think it was like the BK Butler opamp-driving tube deal.

But this pedal you have your hands on sounds different. Does the Dr. Boogey have the same amount of transistors?

aron