Not just any question about decal paper!

[mattpocket]

I just finished designing a couple of decal transfers... and printed them on plain paper on the printer at work, they looked great!

Then I thought I would use the photocopier to transfer them to decal paper... and guess what... I broke the photocopier!

The paper managed to melt itself to the fuser! Its now all stuck together!

Why did this happen? I took all the precautions, making sure the paper was fed the correct way etc...

Matt

[$uperpuma]

film layer of the decal paper is very thin the transfer heat was Probably too much

[~arph]

Haha how are you going to explain that to the boss.. 

[Chuck]

Haha how are you going to explain that to the boss.. 

OOPS

Dam that must suck. 

Probably could have bought an Alps printer for what that fuser is gonna cost.

[mattpocket]

Haha, oh well!

Service agreement will cover that...

I said I picked up a piece of (what i thought was) glossy photo paper, but it looks like it must have had some sort of coating on it! Oops!

Haha, if you are in trouble, the best policy is to lie through your back teeth!

Matt

[~arph]

The good thing is that you can't see what you were actually copying

[markm]

This wasn't waterslide decal paper was it?

[mattpocket]

Yeah

I thought you could use it with lasers and photocopiers? If you get the right kind (which I think I did)

Matt

[markm]

Yeah

I thought you could use it with lasers and photocopiers? If you get the right kind (which I think I did)

Matt

Not that I know of but, it's possible.
Look at it this way, you'll have a freshly serviced copier to try it with again!

[Plinky]

I just used some decal papers from Testors to make some decals for some Tube Screamers I'm building. It's says specifically to use an inkjet printer - no laser or photocopier. Sorry dude. That's gotta suck. 

[vanessa]

I used to print at a local Kinko's print shop. I used their color Xerox printer for years and never had a problem. One day an employee went off on me for using this printer. So I took my decals to the counter and had them print them out on their color copier. When I put them in water they bubbled all up. I guess they use some sort of oil in the process.

So those were a disaster... 

I figured I would go across town to another Kinko's and use their color Xerox printer (so as to avoid the employee that gave me the hassle). When I printed off my decals the first sheet came partially through melted and stinking like it was on fire and the second sheet got jammed and the whole copier was making this super loud "click,,, click,,, click" noise...

I RAN SO FAST!!! 

[Chuck]

I RAN SO FAST!!! 

Hahaha.  Cool that you got away.

I have an Alps MD-1000 Dye sublim printer that even prints white, gold and silver.
I highly recommend it if you can find a good one.  They aren't made anymore.
But you can still get dye ribbons.

[markm]

I figured I would go across town to another Kinko's and use their color Xerox printer (so as to avoid the employee that gave me the hassle). When I printed off my decals the first sheet came partially through melted and stinking like it was on fire and the second sheet got jammed and the whole copier was making this super loud "click,,, click,,, click" noise...

I RAN SO FAST!!! 

[Elektrojänis]

So I took my decals to the counter and had them print them out on their color copier. When I put them in water they bubbled all up. I guess they use some sort of oil in the process.

If I remember correctly, color lasers and color copiers usually use silicon oil or something like that in the printing process. Beacause of that some machines make printed transparencies a bit greasy and foggy looking.

A few years ago some copier manufacturers claimed that ther new machines do not use any silicone. At work we were getting new copiers and we had a meetings with some sales representatives. One sales rep was asked that do their machines use silicone and he said that yes it does, as do all the others too. Newer machines just use less of it and remove the excess silicone more efficiently than the old ones.

[runmikeyrun]

Haha, if you are in trouble, the best policy is to lie through your back teeth!

Absolutely.  Work will lie to you: why you don't get a lunch, why your new health benefits suck so bad, why you don't get a 2% raise, why you can't use your vacation at such a date, so i never feel guilty about lying to them.

Why do i feel that someday this is going to end up at a lawsuit somewhere? 

[powerplayj]

Are you guys sending a whole page of decal paper through the copier?

.....I always use the manual tray to print a test page and then cut out how much decal (or press 'n' peel blue) I need.  Then tape it (decal, etc) over the image on the previously printed paper with scotch tape and re-insert into the tray to print again on top of the original image. 

Oh yeah, don't name it tube screamer, etc.  Call it "1st quarter earnings", etc....

[vanessa]

If I remember correctly, color lasers and color copiers usually use silicon oil or something like that in the printing process. Beacause of that some machines make printed transparencies a bit greasy and foggy looking.

Well... After that whole ordeal I went out and bought a Lexmark color laser printer. When they came down to the under $500 price range with good quality prints I decided to get my own. I needed it for my work but it also makes a great stompbox decal/pnp pcb maker. 

When I was looking I did some research. If I remember correctly you need to worry about the way they implement the fuser. I went off the Kinko's Xerox as my guideline. The first one I used was fantastic so I searched out those types of technology. I called Kinko's about their color copiers and stayed away from printers that used that type of technology. BTW, most color copy machines use that oil (or wax) type fuser technology.

I have a Lexmark C522. It's really good. I print photos that I can frame and you can't tell the difference (it was one of the first color laser printers that could do really convincing photo work). I wish the black only mode laid it on like the old HP's (mid 90's) black and white lasers, but hey it's just a little extra time with an iron (pnp, pcb's) and I get color so I can live with it. 

[Auke Haarsma]

I print with my laserprinter on waterslide decals. Never had any problem at all.

However, I did get 'special' waterslidedecal-paper for laser. I bought it off ebay from this seller:

http://stores.ebay.nl/Pictures-On-Porcelain_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm

[mattpocket]

I had both inkjet and laser decal paper...

It was the laser paper that screwed up...

I printed the same image on inkjet and it came out ok (apart from me forgetting to change the print denstity!) but it didnt knacker the printer anyway... Its just I have the hassle of clearcoating, and I can just see me dropping it in the water and all the ink running!

Matt

[Paul Perry (Frostwave)]

Are you guys sending a whole page of decal paper through the copier?
.....I always use the manual tray to print a test page and then cut out how much decal (or press 'n' peel blue) I need.  Then tape it (decal, etc) over the image on the previously printed paper with scotch tape and re-insert into the tray to print again on top of the original image. 

Well, as always, YYMV..... but, my local convenience store used to have a copier. Until someone copied something that was taped up, and some of the tape fused to the drum... no, it wasn't me! honest!