Octave - chords

[DWBH]

I'm looking for a octave pedal that works well with both chords and single notes.

[the recluse]

To my knowledge, there really aren't any "octave" pedals that are capable of effecting chords without garbling them.  The interaction of the notes between each string as they are played and while they decay produces overtones that a tracking device can have a very hard time keeping up with.  Octave pedals that track single notes usually involve heavy filtering to keep out as many overtones as possible to allow clean tracking on the root note. 

That being said, instruments/processor systems such as the Line 6 Variax, Fender VG strat, and Roland VG systems are supposedly able to intelligently pitchshift each string, but these all make use of some sort of pickup that has one pickup for each individual string. 

All of these are much more expensive than your average old octave pedal though.

[DWBH]

Well, that being said, which pedal works best with chords?

[jonathan perez]

the POG.

[Mark Hammer]

With only VERY few exceptions (and they are so exceptional, I won't describe them), you cannot do octave-division of a chord in the analog domain.  And even when you attempt it, it's bloody sloppy.  If you want to do octave-division on more than one note at a time, on a guitar, you need to go digital.

The POG is essentially a digital harmonizer tailored to do multiple octaves at once, and ignore a lot of the possibilities in between octaves.  Does a great 12-string emulation as well, I might add.

Having said that, I recently bought a Behringer DSP-1000P multi-FX 2nd hand for $50, and one of the programs on it is a harmonizer setting.  It only goes as far up and down as one octave, but I figure fifty bucks for a digital harmonizer that throws in a whole bunch of reverb types, plus flanging, chorusing, and delay for free isn't such a bad deal.  That's the long way of saying that if you can tolerate a rackmount unit, there may be some inexpensive ways of getting your polyphonic octaving.

[vanessa]

EBS Octabass. You can play chords with it. It only triggers the lowest note. They push it for bass guitar but it is really for both guitar and bass. It is a three mode octave divider. The high mode is for use with guitar. Mid mode for use with bass. Low mode is supposed to be a "sub" bass tone (two octaves down?). It's analog. The tracking is the best I've heard. It will set you back some cash unless you find one used (eBay?).

[Arn C.]

Chorus pedal?


Peace!
Arn C.

[JimRayden]

With only VERY few exceptions (and they are so exceptional, I won't describe them)

Oh come on Mark, you got me all excited now. 

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Jimbo

[Mark Hammer]

All those things with hex pickups.  Not exactly stompboxes.

[DWBH]

the POG.

In a couple of years it'll be mine. Dude, I'm still in the 10th grade and I don't even have pocketmoney....

[blanik]

i beleive you can hear the POG on "Blue Orchid" from the White Stripes album... supposedly POG all the way, on chords and all...

[jonathan perez]

the POG.

In a couple of years it'll be mine. Dude, I'm still in the 10th grade and I don't even have pocketmoney....

wow...i remember them years..a couple years ago...

[MartyMart]

The latest Boss OC-3 will do it - just about, with up to a three note chord.
Must be digital, call it a "three note POG" perhaps !! Ton.... now put that large Beer Stein down !! 

MM.

[StephenGiles]

the POG.

10th grade? Please explain to an Englishman

In a couple of years it'll be mine. Dude, I'm still in the 10th grade and I don't even have pocketmoney....

[StephenGiles]

http://www.firebottle.com/fireforum/fireBB.cgi?cfg=fx&forum=fxdc&thread=280652-000000.msg

[Mark Hammer]

The latest Boss OC-3 will do it - just about, with up to a three note chord.
Must be digital, call it a "three note POG" perhaps !! Ton.... now put that large Beer Stein down !! 
MM.

I was flipping through a recent Boss effects catalog this morning on the bus, and it IS digital.  It's funny, without even declaring a given pedal as digital, you can divide up their pedals into analog and digital by the current consumption specs listed in the back of the catalog.  The analog pedals will draw anywhere from 6-25ma, depending on the pedal and how many things it has going at once.  Then there is a big leap in consumption (starting at 50ma) for the digital pedals in the same chassis package.  Just about any of the pedals with a "3" suffix (PH-3, BF-3, OC-3, etc) are digital.  So, yeah, I guess the OC-3 is a kind of mini-POG.

[StephenGiles]

10th grade? Please explain to an Englishman. When I was at school it was easy, 1st year, 2nd year and so on to the 6th form (don't ask!), but now some idiot decided to change to year whatever, so those of us ex schoolboys from the 60s don't know were we are!

[Meanderthal]

 He has 2 more years of mandatory/public education to go before graduating and moving on to secondary education(college). Age group- approx 15-16 years old, too young for a job(as we know it) basically.

That would make him about the same age as my son...

I'm not sure what the equivalent British terminology would be... but he's just a kid. Not that there's anything wrong with that, admirable to start young!

[Meanderthal]

 Oh! And, it's called a 'grade' because moving on is not based on the year, but performance. 12 years if you pass minimum requirements, but if you don't do well you must repeat that grade. There is no guarantee that you will pass the grade, you must actually learn to do so. It is a traumatic and humiliating experience to be left behind, motivation to try and do well.

Jeez, I hope I didn't confuse you further... 

[zerohero]

i beleive you can hear the POG on "Blue Orchid" from the White Stripes album... supposedly POG all the way, on chords and all...

you can hear it all over the end of "Snow" by the chili peppers too
and for those who haven't seen it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsjIJ_BIsbI