Anyone tried this?.... Exp Pedal ideas.

Started by emilyandmiles, June 11, 2007, 11:50:44 AM

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emilyandmiles

After seeing various delays built into wah enclosures for the treadle to affect one parameter (delay time say).
I began toying with the idea of having three wah enclosures attached to the same baseplate, and have the exp for vol, feedback, and delay time be the actual pedal itself, having all enclosures hardwired together, having the board in say the central one....
anyone know what I'm on about here? lol
Anybody out there built something similar?

Pushtone


Volume and feedback I can dig, but adjusting the delay time will cause re-sampling giving you those strange sounds delays produce when the time is adjusted.
Unless that's what you want. Three treadles would be very large. Thats the only drawback I can think of.

Another approach would be to put a delay in a standard 1590BB and mount two/three exp jacks. When a exp pedal is connected the pot is deactivated and the treadle takes over.
That way you can go skinny without any exp pedals and still have a fully functional delay.

R.G. did the HOW TO ADD AN EXP PEDAL at GEOFEX.COM

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GREEN FUZ

You`ve just reminded me of the other guitar player in a band I was in some years ago. He had 2 Morley Wahs strapped together in such a way that both could be played at the same time. God knows why. Granted they both sounded slightly different individually but together it didn`t seem to amount to much. I remember the contraption falling apart during one particularly chaotic gig.

I think your idea is definitely possible if a bit ungainly.

I was wondering whether a dualgang pot could be used in a similar way. Affecting two seperate parameters with the ability to switch them on or off if needs be.

emilyandmiles

QuoteVolume and feedback I can dig, but adjusting the delay time will cause re-sampling giving you those strange sounds delays produce when the time is adjusted.
I know what you mean, but i had in mind the byoc delay, or rehousing an old analogue one which i don't think mind having the delay time adjusted on the fly.

I just think it would be such a great tool, to fade in some self osc, whilst bringing the time down, then easing off the feedback... all whilst still playing!

Austin73

Hi Miles nice idea as I think you can't have too many expression pedals. Ha ha I have just done what you are trying to do via midi

Behringer FB1010 2x EXP, BoSS GT3 + EV5 so had 4 continuous controllers affecting the delay. Wasn' t great I normally just use the exp for fx volume of the delay, but good luck

You could try this with other fx too I'm sure with greater music mangling fun

Aus
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Paul Perry (Frostwave)

I suppose modular synth guys have been doing this for years, or at least they have been able to, if they wanted!
Because, if your functions are voltage controlled - this is the whole point of modular synths - then you can control any number of them using the same controlling voltage, which may come from a foot rocker pedal, or anywhere else.
Also, given function generator modules, you can send different shaped voltage sweeps to the various elements.

QSQCaito

Quote from: GREEN FUZ on June 11, 2007, 12:33:27 PM
You`ve just reminded me of the other guitar player in a band I was in some years ago. He had 2 Morley Wahs strapped together in such a way that both could be played at the same time.

SRV did this.. duct taped 2 wahs, it would give a deeper sound supposedly.
D.A.C

ADR

Do a google search on Hyperspace pedal. It was used by Tom Scholz from the band Boston in the 70s.

It was an echo plex with a wah pedal that could twist the whole pedal on a pivot with bearings all mounted on a plank, as well as rock the treadle.
It would control the time and feedback. With some experience, it allowed to make spaceship noises.

widdly

That hyperspace sounds interesting.  Zoom does something similar that rocks like a wah and also the top twists left right so you can use one foot to control two parameters.

You can sweep the Rebote 2 delay time.  It shifts the pitch of the feedback signal and sounds pretty cool.  I think sweeping feedback would be more interesting though.



petemoore

  There were pics of an old was it foxx wah/phaser, it had a 'cats cradle' of strings and pulleys driving pots from a twister and rocker type pedal, funky and cool...maybe someone got used to controlling phase speed with wah, seems like it would be a bit tricky//
 
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Processaurus

Quote from: widdly on June 12, 2007, 12:27:00 AM


Nice! they borrowed the idea fender had for their old school combo volume tone rocker pedal.

I was thinking about a wah pedal enclosure with 2 big flat knobs with rubber boots (I've got some, lucky me, don't know where to buy them) on top of the rocker, maybe build up some features up with plastic or wood to go on the ends, and in between the knobs, so you can rock the pedal without turning the knobs, but then you can stick your toe or heal on the knobs and go to work.

Paul Perry (Frostwave)

If you had a magnet in the end of your shoe (or in a harness or something that clipped over your shoe) then, by moving your foot with respect to a pair (or more) of linear hall effect sensors, you could control two variables independently, with practice.