lol...I guess Way Huge is "guilty" too.

brad · June 23, 2007, 12:07:58 AM

The pic on the top is the guts of an early Way Huge Red Llama.

The pic on the bottom is the "Tube Sound Fuzz" project page from Craig Anderton's book Electronic Projects for Musicians.

ulysses · June 23, 2007, 12:28:57 AM

thats funny

cheers
ulysses

newbie builder · June 23, 2007, 12:41:08 AM

That is pretty funny, especially given the price those things go for now- I knew the design was basically the same but the layout too...

bajaman · June 23, 2007, 12:47:51 AM

As they say - "why re-invent the wheel"

soulsonic · June 23, 2007, 01:18:44 AM

Good Lord, at least he could have the done tiny perfboard layout shown earlier in the book - then it wouldn't take up so much space and potentially have more value as a "hand-wired" pedal. Still, I'm suprised he didn't infringe on some copyrights by using that layout - it looks like a clone of the original artwork with the "Godbout" logo removed.

brad · June 23, 2007, 01:30:56 AM

I think what he went on to achieve makes up for it though

Hanglow · June 23, 2007, 06:40:45 AM

That is quite amusing.

*waits for another 13+ page thread*

markm · June 23, 2007, 07:05:09 AM

I think before everyone starts pointing fingers at Jeorge, consider this;
Perhaps he and CA had an agreement for him using this circuit and artwork?
Maybe not.
Just a thought though.

zachary vex · June 23, 2007, 08:34:54 AM

Quote from: brad on June 23, 2007, 01:30:56 AM
I think what he went on to achieve makes up for it though

Jorge's pedals were being sold at a local store here in Minneapolis called Encore. When he quit the boutique business, none of the Way Huge stock at Encore had serial numbers higher than 200. It took a long time for the remaining stock to sell. The "internets" simply didn't exist for most musicians back then. It was truly a different time. The craze for Jorge's pedals kicked in years after he quit making them.

petemoore · June 23, 2007, 10:29:03 AM

So what do you have to feel guilty about then?
[Hint: keyword 'too'].

brad · June 23, 2007, 10:56:12 AM

Quote from: zachary vex on June 23, 2007, 08:34:54 AM
Quote from: brad on June 23, 2007, 01:30:56 AM
I think what he went on to achieve makes up for it though

Jorge's pedals were being sold at a local store here in Minneapolis called Encore. When he quit the boutique business, none of the Way Huge stock at Encore had serial numbers higher than 200. It took a long time for the remaining stock to sell. The "internets" simply didn't exist for most musicians back then. It was truly a different time. The craze for Jorge's pedals kicked in years after he quit making them.

I just meant that his pedals went on to achieve legendary status from such humble beginnings.

But you're right, it's a shame he's not making anything from those crazy collector prices.

Quote from: petemoore on June 23, 2007, 10:29:03 AM
So what do you have to feel guilty about then?
[Hint: keyword 'too'].

I dunno...reverse engineering for Behringer?

A.S.P. · June 23, 2007, 11:13:47 AM

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=19042.msg113752#msg113752

GREEN FUZ · June 23, 2007, 02:29:51 PM

While we`re on the subject how does the Red Llama actually differ from Craig Andertons tube sound fuzz? I`ve read that one was based on the other but the example above seems to be the same animal. Is it just a matter of changing a few component values?

remmelt · June 23, 2007, 02:38:50 PM

Tweaked components. The TSF has a switch for super extra fuzz. I'd think the TSF is harsher sounding. The RL is my favouritest DIY pedal!

GREEN FUZ · June 23, 2007, 02:56:52 PM

Yeah the Red Llama seems to be a popular build. Another to put on the must build list and for once I think I have all the parts. Mind you I like the sound of that "super extra fuzz"

soulsonic · June 23, 2007, 03:36:15 PM

The first pedal I ever built was a TSF - about 15 years ago when I got my copy of Anderton's book (my copy actually came with the original "sound sheet" floppy record - you know, the kind you're supposed to put a penny on so it doesn't slip on the turntable!). Jeesh, back then you could actually get every single part at Radio Shack.... those were the days! Anyway, I definately preferred the high gain "lead" setting, but it still didn't have quite enough gain for me. Man, I gotta build one of those again... see if I can get that sound I wanted back when I was 14.

mrsage · June 23, 2007, 06:24:43 PM

This is old news...

What's the point of posting this again now?

brad · June 23, 2007, 08:04:55 PM

Quote from: mrsage on June 23, 2007, 06:24:43 PM
This is old news...

What's the point of posting this again now?

I'm not talking about the fact it was a TSF, I was pointing out that Jeorge used the layout from Anderton's book in his early pedals.

I thought it was a quaint reminder of the pre-internet pedal building days.

grolschie · June 23, 2007, 09:04:52 PM

Quote from: markm on June 23, 2007, 07:05:09 AM
I think before everyone starts pointing fingers at Jeorge, consider this;
Perhaps he and CA had an agreement for him using this circuit and artwork?
Maybe not.
Just a thought though.

Maybe he should request that posting details of his work also be banned here so people don't find out? **cough**

The Tone God · June 23, 2007, 09:13:32 PM

Quote from: grolschie on June 23, 2007, 09:04:52 PM
Maybe he should request that posting details of his work also be banned here so people don't find out? **cough**

I believe awhile back he made the request that internal shots and board artwork not be posted while dealers had original stock. Reversed schematics were allowed. Now that all original stock has been sold I think posting is fine but this is off my memory so it should not be trusted. You can do a hunt through the archives as it is in there somewhere.

Andrew

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lol...I guess Way Huge is "guilty" too.