Resistor Help for fuzz face

[msurdin]

I have a fuzz faze that I want to copy the parts. I am trying to figure out the values and make sure they are corret. Some of the colors on the parts and writing is coming off so I want to be sure.

Here is the colors on the resistors:
- blue/grey/red/gold
- yellow/violet/    Brown or violet/ gold
- orange/orange/orange/gold
- gold/yellow/black/brown

Caps:
- 22uf
- 2.2uf

Transistors
Bc109c

Does this all work out? Can someone tell me the values of those resistors?

Thanks for the help guys!

Matt

[jlullo]

matt,
i always use this little guy for figuring out resistance..

http://www.kitz.ozware.com/resistor4b.html

hope that helps

jonathan

[msurdin]

Thanks...It didnt change display value when I put in my colors...
Has is recently worked for you?
Do you know any other place with the same kind of thing?

Thanks again!
Matt

[caress]

google "resistor color code chart" or something similar...same with capacitor conversions from pf > nf > uf...google "capacitor conversion"

[msurdin]

from the chart I used i wound up with .140, 470, 680, 330
Is this right to go with the other parts?
My calculations might be off....

[m_charles]

fuzz face values are "pretty much" the same if it's a real "FUZZFACE" brand.

your values are:

6.8k
470 ohm
33K
100k

The 6.8k and 470 ohm are the ones that can differ sometimes...

chuck

[msurdin]

Thanks for the help!

Great now i will finishing ordering parts!

[petemoore]

6.8k
470 ohm
33K
100k
  Looks about right...the 6k8 could be 8k2 or something between say 4k7 and 12k...often the Q2 collector bias resistor [between collector and the 470ohm] this resistor sets the collector bias point voltage, you want something close to around 1/2v of supply V, that'd be 4.5v of 9v battery. A common mod to make the circuit more easily bias-able is to use a 10k or 20k trimpot to set the resistance of Q2CR at a point which biases around 1/2 supply voltage.
  looking at the FF schematic, you can see where the values that otherwise match the various values you have would go.

[msurdin]

I was reading the 470 when you use bc108 or 109 should be 330. Does It really matter? What is really the sound difference?

Thanks

[MetalGod]

I was reading the 470 when you use bc108 or 109 should be 330. Does It really matter? What is really the sound difference?

Thanks

470 ohm will make the pedal louder and also sounds better tonally imo.  why not socket the resistor and see for yourself.  I tend to like a high value like 1k2 in there for a HUGE volume boost to torture my amps 

[petemoore]

I was reading the 470 when you use bc108 or 109 should be 330. Does It really matter? What is really the sound difference?
 Mostly  just a bit louder with a bigger R there.
 I like to use the volume control less than full on, that way I get less 'tone control' out of it..ie from 8 to 10 rolls off highs, so voiced and output leveled [that resistor], to provide the level I want with the VC set for around 7, going a bit +/- the 7 setting doesn't change the treble response much. Plus I'm beginning to think I like having series resistance on the output [ie when the pot is turned down, series resistance for signal path rises].
 The other ways to do it would be...
 Have a set up where that little VC treble loss isn't noticable.
 Use a bypass cap to let a teeny bit of highs past the SP portion of the pot when the pot's turned down a little.
  yupp..820 - 1k or so for me, I also see Axis Face 'capacitor there.