Help wiring a few pedals together

Started by msurdin, August 18, 2007, 11:16:13 PM

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msurdin

I am trying to wire a couple pedals together. From what I gather each pedal when you remove the in and out jacks you just match up tip to tip and sleve to sleve.
I have 2 tube drivers, and they have stereo jacks.. So I'm not really sure what to do, since the other pedals will only have 2 wires.
The other problem is the jacks are looped together on both Tube drivers... can I just forget about the loop?


This would be a giant help.

Thanks!

Matt

cmat

Are you rehousing them and going to use 3pdt switches?

msurdin

I was not thinking about changing the switches.... I am going to be housing them in a giant wooden enclosure...

I did want to put a ic buffer into each tube driver... and obviously have them turned on and off with the same switch that turnes on and off the tube drivers...

thanks

Matt

cmat

So you are going to have 2 switches one for each tube driver that turns the effect and buffer on/off?  Does the tube driver have a 3pdt?  I want to get on the same page.

petemoore

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  There's stereo input jack trick for PS lift, you'll probably want that if battery powered.
 The output jacks would use only the sleeve [gnd]/tip[signal] connections, all jacks of course carry ground circuit to circuit, these grounds are necessary, all Neg. Gnd. I assume.
 Other than that it's figuring out the signal switching, basically like it was I guess...first circuit input goes to 'regular input lug' on true bypass wiring, but output goes to input on next circuit's TB switch input lug, the last circuit's output switch is the only one to go to the output jack [ie all the 'inside circuits' switches have jumper from first output to second ones input, second output to third one's input, third [or last] ones output lug to jack.
 
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

msurdin

Nope, 1 switch for each tube driver. I just want to build my ic buffer into is so it works with the tube driver's switch. So when i switch it on both things are on.

They use the x wing dpdt

If i take some pics maybe it will help us out?

Thanks guys

aron

Well there's another ugly way to do this. Leave the jacks and everything connected and simply plug them in using the existing jacks in the new box.

msurdin

Are you talking about just using cables to connect them?
I wanted to remove the jacks and make it a straight connection with wires..


msurdin

I was looking again at the wires that go to the jacks and this is how they are

Tube driver 1

in jack>wire from board to ring. Wire from board to Sleve. Wire from sleve to dpdt. Wire from Sleve to tip. Wire from Tip to Out's tip.

Out jack> There is a wire from the dpdt to the ring. Sleve is not touched.


Tube Driver 2



I havent worked with these jacks before on this tube driver so hopefuly I have the sleve, right and tip right... should be the same though...

In jack (right)> wire from board to ring. wire from ring to out's ring. sleve empty. wire from board to tip.

Out Jack (left)>wire from in's ring to outs ring. wire from ring to board. wire from ring to sleve. wire from sleve to ground. wire from tip to board.

I hope this can help us out on this.

As I also said I want to wire my buffer into it. I was thinking the wire that goes from switch to board would go switch> into buffer> out to board?

Thanks

Matt




cmat

You could insert a cable and use your continuity feature on your dmm and make sure you are right.  If you are going to install only one buffer I would change one switch to a 4pdt available at www.smallbearelec.com this way the buffer would be bypassed (if that is what you want) Wiring it up is simple.  I think there is a diagram for it at www.generalguitargadgets.com

msurdin

I dont really want to change it to true bypass...

Lets just put it this way. I have a true bypass box before the tube driver and then my other tube driver. Then I have another true bypass box.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/tbbox/tbbox.jpg

TB>TD>TD>TB

how would I wire those 4 together so there was no cables?