Bass pre amp for recording?

Started by jpm83, September 08, 2007, 09:55:04 AM

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jpm83

I'm looking for easy and good recording pre amp for bass. Would ROG Flipster or BD 21 lite be way to go?

Janne

jpm83

So what are the main cons and pros between these two? I was thinking about making Flipster and condor cab sim and use that for recording bass.

Janne

Kornell

I've got the flipster an I'm going to build the sansamp.

- Flipster: "easier" but it's not my sound. It sounds good (look at ROG) but I prefer other type of sound. "Round" sound

- Sanamp: classic bass preamp, a standard, millions of bass player have one. I think is very versatile and I like its sound. The only con is that is  mid-scooped so you've got to be careful with the blend pot. That's why I'm going to change the mid-notch filter and add a mid control. "Punchy and edgy" sound.

There's lots of demo clips on the web, just pick the one you like or build both. ;D


Dragonfly

You might also consider the bass preamp by albert kreuzer....


jpm83

Thanks for answering. I think I'm going to give a try to Flipster.

Janne

jpm83

Quote from: Dragonfly on September 08, 2007, 02:57:17 PM
You might also consider the bass preamp by albert kreuzer....



This thing I have missed totally. Do you have a link or something.

Janne

Ronsonic


There are schematics for the old Acoustic 360 bass pre around on the internets. I would very seriously consider that one but leaving out the fuzz circuit. That was a great sound.

The Bass Sansamp sounds excellent. I don't know how different it is from the schematics we've got kicking around here, but you would be doing very well with one of those.

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boogietube

Here's a link to the 360:
http://moosapotamus.net/THINGS/360+.htm
Although my vote is for the Flipster. It nails the Ampeg sound as far as I'm concerned.
Sean
Pedals Built- Morley ABC Box, Fultone A/B Box, DIY Stompboxes True Bypass box, GGG Drop in Wah, AMZ Mosfet Boost, ROG Flipster, ROG Tonemender, Tonepad Big Muff Pi.
On the bench:  Rebote 2.5,  Dr Boogie, TS808

micro

Just heard the Flipster sound sample from runoffgroove's site and I must say I was not really impressed. Who knows, maybe it wasnt being demo'd to its fullest potential.
I do however own the Sansamp Programmable Bass Driver and it is AWESOME. If you want something for recording, that is the piece. Balanced XLR out, powered with phantom power,
three programmable presets. Also, if it's for recording, you want it to sound great. Depending on how serious you are, it's
worth it to buy one. Oh yeah, I use it for guitar too.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/buy_tech_21_sansamp_3channel_programmable_bass_driver_di?full_sku=103299459

No, I dont work for Guitar Center! (I used to though)




Timebutt

+1 on the Sansamp: I don't think you can go wrong buying one. They are definately worth it IMO, not only a great tool for recording purposes but I also use it as an 'always-on' pedal that gives my solidstate amp this great boost in tone, awesome pedal!
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Dragonfly

Quote from: jpm83 on September 08, 2007, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: Dragonfly on September 08, 2007, 02:57:17 PM
You might also consider the bass preamp by albert kreuzer....



This thing I have missed totally. Do you have a link or something.

Janne

http://www.albertkreuzer.com/start.htm

Onboard version and rack version. Either could be boxed up in a pedal.

boogietube

QuoteJust heard the Flipster sound sample from runoffgroove's site and I must say I was not really impressed
I wasn't either till I built it. In real life it really sounds nothing like that clip. Try it. You'll be impressed.
Pedals Built- Morley ABC Box, Fultone A/B Box, DIY Stompboxes True Bypass box, GGG Drop in Wah, AMZ Mosfet Boost, ROG Flipster, ROG Tonemender, Tonepad Big Muff Pi.
On the bench:  Rebote 2.5,  Dr Boogie, TS808

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Quote from: jpm83 on September 08, 2007, 09:55:04 AM
I'm looking for easy and good recording pre amp for bass. Would ROG Flipster or BD 21 lite be way to go?

Janne

Do you have a link for the BD 21 Lite? thanks!

jpm83

Sorry I can't find it anymore. I think I had it on the computer that was fried in a lightning storm. I even googled it and it looks like it has been removed from the net.

Janne


bipedal

Watching this thread, as I've been thinking about a Flipster for my next build...  So, a slight detour:

I searched the forum, and I recall that someone had suggested changing the DC coupling caps to 1uf to help give the Flipster a fuller bottom-end sound.  I *think* those coupling caps are the four 22n caps in the "stock" version flipster at ROG that immediately follow each trim pot.  (Can anyone confirm this?)

- Jay
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O

Thanks George... I thought the "lite" was a stripped down version of the BDDI.   :-\

DougH

I play with a few guys that swear by the Sansamp. They use it for live performance direct into the p.a.
"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

moosapotamus

What kind of sound are you looking for?
I think all of the suggestions so far will color your sound in some way. But maybe you are looking for a certain "color".

If you already like the sound of your bass and just need a preamp to get a good level for recording without messing with your tone, then you can get suprisingly good results recording bass using a microphone preamp circuit. I have gotten great results with a simplified, unbalanced version of this one...
http://www.diyfactory.com/projects/fetboy/fetboy.htm

Even the single chip ones like the INA217 or THAT1510 would do well.

Likewise, again if you are not looking to change your sound, just capture it exactly as it is, a nice DI will get you there, too.  ;)

~ Charlie
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