AMZ IC Buffer Question

Started by ECistheBest, November 11, 2007, 05:24:38 AM

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ECistheBest

Hello, I built Jack Orman's IC Buffer earlier today, sounds great with close to no tone sucking. But with one problem. It's quiet. Quieter than the bypassed signal. Is there a way to get a bit more gain out of this? Can anybody supply me with some ideas that can cause the quietness? Thanks!

and here's the layout I made myself from Jack's page:


here's a picture of the pedal with no switch or LED, just two jacks and a battery:

the_random_hero

I cannot think of a reason why it would be quieter - gain's set at unity by the fact along that you're using the op-amp as a non-inverting voltage follower. You could modify the design so it had a slight switchable boost (a couple of dB is all you would need), but that could be a bit of work as you would have to change your layout.
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burnt fingers

I built one of these about a year ago.  It was always at unity.  It never was lower.   You may want to double check it to make sure there isn't somehting wrong.

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amz-fx

With no signal input, measure the dc voltage of the opamp pins to ground... they should be:

1:  don't care
2: 4.5v
3: 4.5v
4: 0v
5: don't care
6: 4.5v
7: 9v
8: don't care

You are using a TL071 and not a TL072?

regards, Jack


ECistheBest

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okay so here are the voltages. (Thanks Jack!)

1: 0.13V
2: 3.95V
3: 2.41V
4: 0V
5: 0.11V
6: 2.90V
7: 4.93V
8: 0V

so is it a faulty battery/power supply? or did i fry the IC...?

now it's getting

2: 3.77V
3: 2.74V
6: 4.43V
7: 8.84V

does pin2 and pin3 hate me?? :(

amz-fx

Quotenow it's getting

2: 3.77V
3: 2.74V
6: 4.43V
7: 8.84V

Pins 2 and 6 are connected by a jumper. They should be the same voltage.

-Jack

ECistheBest

pin 2 and pin 6 both read 4.43V now.

Pin7 only reads 3.7V now...

PerroGrande

Pin 7 needs to be connected directly to v+.  Your layout shows this - perhaps one of your trace cuts isn't quite all the way through?

Also -- please verify the type of chip you're using...

ECistheBest

my IC is a TL071CP. i think it's a Texas Instrument chip.

the_random_hero

Take the IC out and measure the voltages while they aren't being dragged down by the IC. You should be getting roughly half the supply voltage shared between pics 2 and 3.
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ECistheBest

with the IC out, i get 0V in pin 2, 2.96V in pin 3, 0V in pin 4, 0V in pin 6, 8.84V in pin 7.

PerroGrande

Something is wrong (obviously)...

With the IC Out, you should read about 4.5 volts on pin 3.   Check for complete trace cuts / solder bridges, etc.

ECistheBest

pin 3 is somehow still reading 2.94V. pin 2 and pin 6 are getting 4.44V, and pin 7 is getting 8.84V.