One more stage center reverb question

Started by Wild Zebra, January 16, 2008, 01:13:20 PM

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Wild Zebra

So I've been thinking about boxing this up and I'm wanting a reverb unit type thing not a pedal that plugs into the tank like at GGG.  Can I have true bypass and a footswitch and how would I do this??  In the layouts it's either TB or the simple footswitch way.  Thanks
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petemoore

  Block diagram:
 

                         Reverb driver >Reverb tank >Recovery :
Input split to  <                                                               >Mixer >Output
                        Clean----------------------------------------:
 A bypass circuit would be DPDT like most circuits .. bypassing around from before input and after output, or through the circuit, the reverb circuit 'in/out' go to the tank, the mixer is part of the board circuit.
 The driver circuit provides a low impedance signal output suitable to drive the tanks 'input' condenser, the recovery circuit is a gain stage to bring the tanks  output condensers output to a level suitable for mixing.
 condenser has much in common with speaker and microphone, except instead of a coil driving or being driven by a diaphram [speaker cone /mic diaphram] it is mechanically attached to the spring.
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Wild Zebra

Quotethe stage center needs a reverb tank...
yeh, I know I have already made this unit.

QuoteA bypass circuit would be DPDT like most circuits .. bypassing around from before input and after output, or through the circuit, the reverb circuit 'in/out' go to the tank, the mixer is part of the board circuit.
  The driver circuit provides a low impedance signal output suitable to drive the tanks 'input' condenser, the recovery circuit is a gain stage to bring the tanks  output condensers output to a level suitable for mixing.
  condenser has much in common with speaker and microphone, except instead of a coil driving or being driven by a diaphram [speaker cone /mic diaphram] it is mechanically attached to the spring.

I understand, what I'm trying to say is can I make it true bypass all the time and have a switched jack so I can attach a footswitch to turn the effect on and off??  I'm using the simple wiring right know here http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/diagrams/stage_center_reverb_lo1.gif it's just that I can here a slight bit of reverb even when it's canceled.
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Mark Hammer

In amplifiers, most of the time the "bypass" simply involves grounding out the reverb signal.  Simply ground the input to the recovery stage, and I can assure you the output of the overall unit will be 100% dry and 0% wet.  Now, that's not "true bypass", but the buffering is not exactly tone-sucking either.

Wild Zebra

Hi thanks Mark, Isn't that what the cancel switch is doing in the "simple wiring"  grounding the signal out
QuoteSimply ground the input to the recovery stage
I don't think I understand the above quote maybe I need a little more of a nudge.
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Mark Hammer

Now that I actually look at the schematic, yes that is exactly what the switch at point X does.  Ignore the rest of what I said.  I was trying to post in a hurry before I had to leave work to catch a bus.

Wild Zebra

Mark, why do you figure I'm hearing a slight reverb and I mean slight?, I reckon it could be a wiring issue.
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Mark Hammer

If the reverb return signal has a much easier time finding its way to ground than to the input of the mixing stage, you ought not to hear it....at all.  I guess it might be necessary to see the project to have a better idea if there are any wiring issues.  On the other hand, its a simple enough circuit that if I suggest there may be wires running where they shouldn't you can check for that and verify.

Wild Zebra

Thanks for all the help.  I'll get it figured out and post some pics of the finished project in the future.  Thanks alot mark.
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