what's the name of the effect that ...

[mikeC]

i have an old EH 16 delay that i pull out on occasion.

you can dial in some real fat chorus w/ this thing ... i'm not a huge fan of chorus in general but i realized today if i set device to "wet" sound only (ie. the detuning half of the chorus) it's sounds great. kinda' like clapton's sound on "my guitar gently weeps"

fattens things up without, er em uhhh, thining things out (like chorus can)

is there a name for this specific effect?

the 16 second delays can be really touchy (i've had more than one over the years ... all needed attention at least once) i'm not sure i want to tour with the thing on my board)

do chorus' generally allow you to choose wet/dry signal?

appreciate the help,
mike

ps. first post here ever but i read ALOT. really great great resource here, thanks!

[chris84]

I could do this with my boss pitch shifter I had years ago - it sounded fantastic, but was out of tune with the rest of the band....

[RickL]

I suppose it might be a bit obvious, especially considering the current topic about it, but I think you're refering to vibrato.

Do you only get the desired sound with particular delay times? I'm thinking maybe longer than normal for chorus delay times but still not quite long enough to hear as a distinct repeat?

[Rodgre]

Actually I think you're referring to a Leslie speaker, maybe?

Nope. I'm listening to it. It's double tracked.


Roger

[Rodgre]

do chorus' generally allow you to choose wet/dry signal?

Not always, and not often. Some chorus pedals which offer stereo outputs will have dry in one channel and wet and the other, but more often than not the outputs are dry + wet and dry - (inverted) wet.

This definitely ties in to the other thread about vibrato that's going on lately. Chorus without the dry signal = vibrato.

Back to the Beatles tune though. There is some really bizarre stuff going on in this track the closer I'm listening. I'm thinking that I'm hearing some experiments with tape flanging effects, but not the traditional "Itchykoo Park/Killer Queen" variety. The droning organ tone sound like it was recorded while someone had a finger against the tape flange for the whole take, as the pitch is all over the place. Awesome!

So that makes me think that Eric's guitar solo isn't doubletracked, but possibly had a finger on the tape reel as it was recorded. There's a fantastic fast vibrato at the tail of the song that sounds like a combination of Eric's fingers and someone's fingers on the reel too.



Roger

[mikeC]

vibrato of course. thanks.

there's no delay involved actually, just all "wet" signal warped out to your taste w/ addition of vibrato.

seems like it'd be useful live as a special sauce to add some dimension. you can dial it in so subtlely as to only really notice it when you take it off you know?

different from a chorus sound as it's not so diffuce, or airy.

thanks all,
m

[Rodgre]

Well in the case of the 16-Second delay, the vibrato is definitely a byproduct of the delay. What you're hearing, when you hear the warbling vibrato effect is a delayed version of the clean signal, with the delay time being varied by an LFO, which is how pretty much every chorus and flanger effect work. The delay time might be so short that you don't notice it as a delayed signal, but it is. In the case of the famous Boss VB-2 Vibrato pedal, you're hearing your signal delayed about 4ms any time you use the pedal, bypass or not (unless you switch the rotary switch to BYPASS).

Roger

[mikeC]

interesting ... that makes sense because when you set wet/dry slider mid-way it does sound chorused.

when slider is all "wet" you do-not notice a delay.

also noticed as you increase "speed" slider your vibrato becomes wider. you can get really silly with the thing.

m

[Caferacernoc]

I've read that the leslie effect was added to "While my guitar gently weeps" after Clapton recorded it. So, when mixed, that effect might very well be blended with the original "dry" track. Or be a Leslie and a tape flange.