Lace Sensors + vintage fuzz

[yeeshkul]

One guy told me that his Rangemaster sounds strangely when used with Lace Sensor pickups. I don't know the principal of LS, do they provide higher input signal? Or what can be the matter?
thanks
Jan

[the recluse]

I thought Lace Sensors were a passive low impedence design. Perhaps that's the trouble?

[Morocotopo]

 Lace Sensors are not low impedance, they are just a different design than standard single coils. Super duper hi tech magnet (not alnico or ceramic, I think), different bobbin topology, hum barriers and whatnot. So they have a different frequency esponse curve than standard single coils, also they respond in a different way to the player´s attack, and they sustain differently. They are closer to an active pickup I think, but really I never tried actives.
As a former Lace Sensor user, they feel more "modern, clearer and polite" than standard single coils, smoother, not as "vintage", just a different animal.

Sooooo, what´s this have to do with your question? If you feed a Rangemaster, designed when Lace sensors didn´t even exist,  with a different signal than the one usual 60´s pickups put out, it will respond differently...

Morocotopo

[George Giblet]

I thought the original motivation for the lace sensors was to mimic the sound of vintage single coil pickups yet keep interference/noise down and reduce magnetic string pull.   As I recall Fender said it didn't quite duplicated the sound but was a good trade-off.

I can't see why a rangemaster would perform an more poorly on a lace sensor than say humbucker.

[Morocotopo]

I thought the original motivation for the lace sensors was to mimic the sound of vintage single coil pickups yet keep interference/noise down and reduce magnetic string pull.   As I recall Fender said it didn't quite duplicated the sound but was a good trade-off.

Yep George, true. but to me they didn´t succeed in mimicking the sound, they sound quite different from a vintage single coil! They are in the ballpark, but you can clearly hear the difference, specially in the attack (at least that´s my experience). There are pickups that do it better in my opinion.
I don´t say that a Rangemaster would perform more poorly w/ Lace Sensors, just differently.
Yeeshkul said strangely, not poorly.

[George Giblet]

> They are in the ballpark, but you can clearly hear the difference,

I agree - I forgot to mention I have a strat with 3 x gold LS's!

[yeeshkul]

Yes i said strangely and i meant differently. I was actually not there to chcek it out myself, the guy just told me (and was going to send the Treble Booster back to the circulation). Guys thank you for explaining the LS.