Is this a Rebote 2 ripoff?

[MikeH]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Boutique-delay-pedal-w-pt2399chip-etc_W0QQitemZ180234308462QQihZ008QQcategoryZ41415QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Definitely not a tonepad board, but looks like the exact same layout.  Hope it's being used with permission...

Edit: Says they're "not for profit" so I guess it's not really a ripoff.  I got distracted by the "Newest in a series of...." blah blah.  Just wanted to make sure tonepad wasn't getting ripped off. 

PS- sorry this is total lounge fodder

[head_spaz]

I didn't research to see if it's a ripoff copy, but the NON-PROFIT statement he makes is pure crap... because it's auctioned to the highest bidder, rather than being sold at a fixed price of construction.

Excerpt from ebay posting:
"These are constructed, for now, not for profit, out of the joy of building them ... blah blah blah..."
End Excerpt

As a society, we need to bring back the old tar and feathers approach to indecency. Right now, anything goes.

[head_spaz]

Looks like an Exact Knockoff of the Rebote 2.

[drewl]

So, what are the legalities of something like this?
What if you made a pedal, gave it away and that person sells it?

[nelson]

Carbon Comps in a digital delay? 

[cloudscapes]

I think the word "boutique" is tossed around wayyyy too much, too. the ebay poster did put it in quotes, but still.....

[gijimmbo]

i'm no expert on these matters, but that seems pretty jacked up to me..

[flo]

Although agreeing with above comments about the "marketing" of the sale, the price is not unreasonable ($70.99) for components, PCB, enclosure and labor. I guess that when one has no more use/interest with some diy FX, one should be able to sell it, right?

[gutsofgold]

I think that price is perfectly fair, but his marketing 'technique' is not. If he was upfront about it and mentioned that it was Rebote, not his original circuit, then I don't think it would be a problem.

[darron]

id say that it is boutique because it's about the lowest scale production that you can get. not nice to use tonepad without referencing. if he's selling it 'non-profit' (and hey, it DID sell cheap) and trying to sound like a good guy then he probably should mentions it's a clone of x, and the layout is freely available from tonepad. it would have been a LOT better i think if made his own layout for it. once you get commercial and start charging heaps for something then i think the fact that it's a clone phases me less, but the fact that the layout is ripped off phases me more. - not that this applies here.

looks like a nice build (: got shots are always cool.

[slacker]

According to the Tonepad "legal" page you can make 3 PCBs from their layouts. So as long as the seller only makes 3 of them that's fine.

[sshrugg]

I looked at the seller's other completed items.  Just one other pedal, so it's not a booming business or anything.

It was a Tube Screamer clone, also using Tonepad's layout.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Boutique-Tube-screamer-a-la-silver-mod-w-carbon-comps_W0QQitemZ180231023682QQihZ008QQcategoryZ41416QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem