If we could design our own wah casing, what would we design in?

[Auke Haarsma]

Put me on the list for two Mick!
(including the plexi kit)
(assuming reasonable shipping to the Netherlands, any clue on shipping costs to Europe?)

[Dragonfly]

Mick -
  Quite honestly I think you're pricing this too cheap. $50 is a nice round number, accounts for your time, materials, etc, and is still extremely competitive....but I'll gladly pay $43
   Please put me on the list to buy "at least" one when they become available.
Andy

[nelson]

I will take two when they are available.

[petemoore]

  The right shoe.

[joegagan]

this is pretty historic stuff happenin right here. i like it!

[MicFarlow77]

Hi All,

Auke, shipping 2 to the Netherlands will be $38.95 according to the USPS website.

As far as pricing, I cut it quite a bit. I have made some assumptions I hope I don't regret about my efficiencies as a builder. We'll see how that goes. One thing to note though is that if the price of aluminum goes up any, my pricing will have to reflect that. There isn't much room for error at this price point.

Also, As far as it taking 2-3 hours... that is only actual build time. That did not include setting up or switching equipment. That is a factor, but not so much so when you build in multiples. Again, some assumptions were made.. I hope I do not regret them or miss the mark too much.

Thanks all for your comments! Much Appreciated!

Mick

[MicFarlow77]

  The right shoe.

Hey Pete,

What ya thinking here, having the paddle on either side, or even in the middle.

That is easy enough to arrange and I can actually ship without attaching the paddle in the event that someone wants to experiment with placement of the treadle system.

Thanks,

Mick

[Dragonfly]

Hi All,

Auke, shipping 2 to the Netherlands will be $38.95 according to the USPS website.

As far as pricing, I cut it quite a bit. I have made some assumptions I hope I don't regret about my efficiencies as a builder. We'll see how that goes. One thing to note though is that if the price of aluminum goes up any, my pricing will have to reflect that. There isn't much room for error at this price point.

Also, As far as it taking 2-3 hours... that is only actual build time. That did not include setting up or switching equipment. That is a factor, but not so much so when you build in multiples. Again, some assumptions were made.. I hope I do not regret them or miss the mark too much.

Thanks all for your comments! Much Appreciated!

Mick

Mick - I, for one, won't be offended if you decide that a price raise is necessary. I greatly appreciate your efforts in making this as affordable as possible.

[petemoore]

What ya thinking here, having the paddle on either side, or even in the middle.
  There's a way to do it, I'm just not set up to prototype it..I find the 'old clunky' electro-mechanical wahs to work just fine really, why discover a new type of 'non-wheel' that 'rolls' and work all that up to a nice, usable product when I have enough 'wheels' to roll me along the way nicely for a long long time with just a little maintenance here and there?
  ...Sometimes I like to just mention a concept and let someone else 'invent' it, reap the rewards for mass producing it or something...perhaps one day a suggestion like this will initiate a new business partnership where I make sure everything is figured out 'right' !!1 [lol].
  As much as I want to reveal about my 'mental discoveries' is there...take and run with it or leave it there..cryptic and untested as it is.
  That said...anyone else interested in a 'right shoe wah'?
  BTW...Joe, do you use the right or left foot to work the wah treadle ?

[Auke Haarsma]

Auke, shipping 2 to the Netherlands will be $38.95 according to the USPS website.

Thanks for looking that up! Mucho reasonable to me.

Any updates Mick?

[joegagan]

hey pete, missed the question.
i use either foot.

[Solidhex]

Yo

  I'll take 2 as well!

--Brad

[gez]

Mick -
  Quite honestly I think you're pricing this too cheap.

Not even minimum wage (in the UK).  I applaud your efforts, Mick, but don't sell yourself short.  I appreciate that there's a fun element in doing all this, but if you get regular orders (that will cut into you time), you may regret such a low price - you might as well flip burgers for all the cash it will bring in.

If the product is truly unique, which it appears to be (looks great by the way), then people should be made aware of this and it should be reflected in the price.

[mnordbye]

Have you started to ship these beauties yet, Mic? I'll be happy to buy one if so.

Magnus Nordbye

[MicFarlow77]

Not even minimum wage (in the UK).  I applaud your efforts, Mick, but don't sell yourself short.  I appreciate that there's a fun element in doing all this, but if you get regular orders (that will cut into you time), you may regret such a low price - you might as well flip burgers for all the cash it will bring in.

If the product is truly unique, which it appears to be (looks great by the way), then people should be made aware of this and it should be reflected in the price.

Thanks Gerry! I really appreciate the sentiment and it is a true testament to the quality of people that visit this great site. After factoring in all the variables, I think I am still at a fair price, given that when you recieve a wah enclosure "kit" you will still have to put some effort into it yourself. If I were to have to finish them all out, then yes, they are way too cheap.

Also, an update:

I have not had too much time to devote to building for the last month or so because of the day job... was Primary On Call for a week, then Secondary On Call for a week, then had two weekends where I needed to go to Weddings... which just kinda ruins a day as far as building is concerned... especially seeing as how both weddings were out of town.

All that being said though, I am in the process of finishing a run of Large Recessed enclosures and when done with those, I will start the Wah enclosure run.

I am also having to build some tooling and jigs to help with certian aspects of the wah build, so that will take a little effort... I also have to do all the documentation for the instruction sheet that will accompany these enclosures.... I am still also sourcing the best hardware... stuff that will hold up (stainless where possible) and will not back off or come loose... meaning lock washers or that nylon type... not sure which yet....

Many Thanks to all for your patience and I hope to have some if these for shipping as soon as I possibly can.

Mick

[Joe Hart]

I just spent almost an hour reading this thread (somehow I missed it all these weeks!!).  I want at least one!!  And the plexiglass kit thingy!!  And maybe more!!!!!!  This thing is amazing!!!!!!!!!  THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Joe Hart

[John Lyons]

Excuses excuses! Come on Mick, faster... faster....

john

[MicFarlow77]

Hey Joe,

Thanks for reading up on this... I hope to be able to start shipping some of thes things as soon as possible!

Thanks,

Mick

[MicFarlow77]

Excuses excuses! Come on Mick, faster... faster....

john

Yes Master.... I go now to build...... 

Thanks John!

[gez]

After factoring in all the variables, I think I am still at a fair price, given that when you recieve a wah enclosure "kit" you will still have to put some effort into it yourself. If I were to have to finish them all out, then yes, they are way too cheap.

Yes it's very fair...to everyone except yourself, Mick. 

From your previous post:

"It can cost as much as $20 to $25 in aluminium per enclosure, so I cut the price to the bone to be competitive.

It will take at the very least 2 hours to build each one and most likely closer to 3, not to mention the time to pack them up and ship them out."

At  $43.50 a shot, you're going to make $18.50 - $23.50 (assuming the tax man is kept in the dark about this). That's between $6.16 and $7.83 per hour (assuming "closer to 3" hours + time spent packing them).  From a "I'm in this to have fun" point of view, fine go for it.  From a business point of view it makes no sense whatsoever, unless you push the price up/outsource to keep prices low (not really an option on such a small scale).  If people aren't willing to pay more, then walk away. 

I hope the above doesn't come across as negative, just trying to shake some sense into you!