Re-amping box 1k:1k transformer?

Started by newb, May 12, 2008, 02:54:12 PM

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newb

im wanting to build a reamp. I only have a 1k to 1k transformer

can i use it?

petemoore

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bancika

Taking output signal from one amp and amplify it with the other.
I'd say it's better with isolation transformer because you're safe from ground loops.
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Pushtone

Quote from: petemoore on May 12, 2008, 03:04:57 PM
  What's a reamp ?


To me, Re-amping is when you pass a signal from from a recorder back into an amplifier and re-record the amp.
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Paul Marossy

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Your bigger problem will be finding an audio transformer that does better than 300Hz-3kHz. You could improve the frequency response some by using an opamp driver. There's some good info in this thread about audio transformers for use with guitars: http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=40603.20

Or you could look into using a Jensen transformer, but it's like $100. http://www.jensen-transformers.com/apps_sc.html

brett

Hi
I've never tried this, but in theory it could work.

The frequency range of audio transformers is limited at the bottom end due to a lack of inductance, and the roll-off is similar to most 1 pole filters (ie 6dB per octave).  You could use a graphic equaliser or a simple bass boost circuit to boost the bass by this amount.  At the top end, the losses are more complex, due to poor capacitive coupling and other stuff I don't really understand.  However, the same princliple applies.  A graphic equaliser could be used to compensate for the losses and achieve a more balanced sound.

Heck, I just had an idea - what if you put one of those transformers in the feedback loop of an op-amp.  Would that give gain that is the mirror-image of the transformer's response?  Or would the losses be too great at the amount of current operating in the feedback loop?

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soulsonic

Edcor makes awesome quality small audio transformers for all kinds of applications like this and they can wind custom ones for a very reasonable price. I've used one of their 15K:15K ones to give an isolated out to an A/B box and the sound quality was superb!
And their prices are dirt cheap compared to Jensen and Lundahl!
Please check them out; I guarantee you will not be disappointed.
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This is the one I used in my A/B box:  http://www.edcorusa.com/products/transformers/pc/pc15k-15k.html
Those specs are no joke!!!

Stop messing around with those garbage telephone transformers and start using the real thing.
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Paul Marossy

QuoteA graphic equaliser could be used to compensate for the losses and achieve a more balanced sound.

I thought of that, too, but I have never personally tried it. It makes sense in theory, though.

QuoteEdcor makes awesome quality small audio transformers for all kinds of applications like this

RG had mentioned that before. I should pick one up to give it a try...

PerroGrande

+1 on checking out Edcor.  I just spent some time on their site this morning, and their stuff looks fantastic and very reasonably priced.

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soulsonic

Here's a pic of the isolated A/B/Y I did:

That transformer is so beautiful!
And heavy too! :)
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Paul Marossy

Looks like a quality transformer.  :icon_razz:

jmasciswannabe

Check this out:

http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopic.php?t=7319&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=15&sid=bf4800f923a16e0230fd720771bf5006

I know it doesn't use your transformer, but if you want to build a diy reamp, that seems like the inexpensive way to go. The transformers are a bit large though. Make sure you have a deep enough enclosure. I am planning on using a radio shack plastic enclosure that cost me $4 bucks. I am going to shield it if it hum.

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