oscillator inside guitar body

Started by nisios, May 21, 2008, 12:29:55 PM

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nisios

A friend of mine asked me to modify hes guitar by putting an oscillator inside the body.
I assembled a 555 variable frequency astable oscillator but as expected i had a lot of bleeding to the ground.
Any tips on how to solve this bleeding problem?
Thanks

GibsonGM

It's not really clear what you did, nisios...can you post a diagram?  If you've connected the 555 directly into the signal path, you might experience some weird phenomena - there could be impedance issues.  The way to do that might be by using a LDR/LED combination so the 555 is electrically isolated from the audio signal, and have the whole thing on a DPDT switch....
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nisios

I connected it directelly but i was aiming to make a blender of the two signals down the road.
The thing is that when i disconnected the 555 output from the circuit i still had alot of oscillation bleeding to the signal....maybe throw common audio\oscillator ground?
Is there any way to correct this? any way of grounding this propperly?
i dont have the circuit with me now....its in my other house where i study and to wich ill go back in the middle of this week.....but as i remeember,  its just a plain simple oscillator sharing ground with the guitar and bleeding alot to the guitar signal at this point.
i stoped experimenting because if i could't even deal with this having the oscillator output disconnected, i didnt even bothered trying to acctualy mix the two signals....for that ill try to impllemento a simple inverting transistor mixer. or an opamp if it gives any more ground noise problems.
I was doing this on breadboard....can this influence much?

zyxwyvu

Have you tried the CMOS version of the 555 (ex: LMC555 as opposed to LM555)? It uses a lot less current.

You can also try putting a small resistor between the circuit ground and your guitar ground.

nisios

I was using the cmos version here.
Ill have to try that resistor on the ground. What king of values do you sugest?
Im thinking......wouldnt a small inductor do a better job in place of that resistor you are talking about?

zyxwyvu

Quote from: nisios on May 26, 2008, 02:22:52 PM
I was using the cmos version here.
Ill have to try that resistor on the ground. What king of values do you sugest?
Im thinking......wouldnt a small inductor do a better job in place of that resistor you are talking about?

I was thinking something like 100R - 1K. An inductor would probably work better, if you can get your hands on one. I suggest trying out different values, or sticking a pot in there, because I'm not sure how much it will affect the sound of the oscillator.

rocket

it might also be the pickup picking up the signal (no pun)

e45tg4t3

hi there,
try to put a switch between the power supply and the 555, so you can completly turn of the oscillator...
then the bleedtrought shuold be gone^^

Benny