best place/type of wire ?

Started by jimbob, July 10, 2008, 06:32:20 PM

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jimbob

Im looking for somthing that doesnt melt so easily when I solder it to the board. So basically, I want something that can withstand a certain/decent amount of soldering iron heat and it needs to be tinned and stranded.????


Anyone?

I recently bought some stuff thats too stiff and the outer covering melts too easy.
"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

deaconque

i bought some of the teflon coated wire from www.effectsconnection.com a while back and it matches your descrption exactly, although i can't remember if it's pretinned or not

Easywider

It Is Pre Tinned & Impossible To Melt !

kurtlives

I just got some of this wire http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=85 and really like it.

Easy to strip easy to route and get to stay in place.
My DIY site:
www.pdfelectronics.com

jimbob

"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

John Lyons

#5
I have used teflon wire a good bit but I had some of the Smallbear pre-tinned wire and found that I love it.
Easy to strip and it solders very easily. Not much shrink or melt either.

By the way, the wire at Effects Connection isn't pre tinned, it's silver plated. Big difference.


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jimbob

I really like Smallbear too, however, I have no patience for the wait it takes to get it in the mail- and thats no dig on SB. Im just doing a lotta projects and it ussually takes more time than Im willing to wait.
"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

kurtlives

Quote from: jimbob on July 10, 2008, 07:40:23 PM
I really like Smallbear too, however, I have no patience for the wait it takes to get it in the mail- and thats no dig on SB. Im just doing a lotta projects and it ussually takes more time than Im willing to wait.
Sounds like you need to go check out the SBE hate thread in the lounge. ;)
My DIY site:
www.pdfelectronics.com

jimbob

I differ in that I hate paypal and SB doesnt take credit/debit cards which is what I use 99% of the time. So I have to snail mail a cashiers check, wait for it to arrive, confirm , and wait for it back. I have never had any problems with SB- Steve is awsome. They just need to take my darn card is all. :)
"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

Zedmin_fx

Quote from: kurtlives on July 10, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: jimbob on July 10, 2008, 07:40:23 PM
I really like Smallbear too, however, I have no patience for the wait it takes to get it in the mail- and thats no dig on SB. Im just doing a lotta projects and it ussually takes more time than Im willing to wait.
Sounds like you need to go check out the SBE hate thread in the lounge. ;)


ha thats so freaking funny man lmao!!!!

deaconque

Quote from: jimbob on July 10, 2008, 07:40:23 PM
I really like Smallbear too, however, I have no patience for the wait it takes to get it in the mail- and thats no dig on SB. Im just doing a lotta projects and it ussually takes more time than Im willing to wait.

+1  Everytime i've bought from SBE it's taken about 2 weeks to get my stuff.  with effectsconnection.com it usually takes 3-5 days.   but then again they're selection isn't as extensive as SBE.

davent

#11
I bought 500' of Teflon (PTFE) in various colours from ApexJr. Big selection of colours, gauges, solid or stranded and sold by the foot. Finding  this stuff much easier to strip then the Belden I was using before.

dave
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96ecss

Quote from: kurtlives on July 10, 2008, 07:02:31 PM
I just got some of this wire http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=85 and really like it.

Easy to strip easy to route and get to stay in place.

This is what I use and I agree completely. It doesn't melt when you solder it either. I love it.

Dave

edited for spelling.

jimbob

Ok- I ordered the red 22 teflon from effectsconnection.com // Good Price
"I think somebody should come up with a way to breed a very large shrimp. That way, you could ride him, then after you camped at night, you could eat him. How about it, science?"

tranceracer

I have tons of Cat5 solid and stranded core wire and the insulation always shrinks. 

What I do is strip a 2-3mm of insulation, heat the core wire and pre-shrink the insulation.  Then snip the excess wire off and tin the wire.  The insulation will shrink a little more but now when I solder the insulation has pretty much already shrunk down and looks nice and neat without the excess exposed wire.  I can sometimes get a nice little "foot" of insulation around the base of the wire.

Paul Perry (Frostwave)

If you want 'neat', you can put some heatshrink on the wire, then after you solder no matter what happens, you can just tug the heatshrink to cover the mess, apply the heat gun & voila! :icon_wink:

tranceracer

Quote from: tranceracer on July 11, 2008, 01:25:30 AM
I can sometimes get a nice little "foot" of insulation around the base of the wire.

Here's a pic of what I was referring to...



eurekaiv

I LOVE using teflon (ptfe) but it is an absolute bear to strip.  I've tried automatics and they either destroy the wire along with stripping or don't strip at all.  The only thing I've found that works is an exacto and that's a bit more time consuming then I'd like it to be. Anyone got any tips?

cpnyc23

I read something somewhere about harvesting wire from old computer cables and the like.  Anybody ever go this route?

Also, what is the thinnest wire that you find you use with good results?  I have trouble with anything smaller than 24 but I did use 26 on a rotary switch for cap selection - that worked out pretty well.

-chris
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Processaurus

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Quote from: cpnyc23 on July 11, 2008, 05:55:16 PM
I read something somewhere about harvesting wire from old computer cables and the like.  Anybody ever go this route?

Also, what is the thinnest wire that you find you use with good results?  I have trouble with anything smaller than 24 but I did use 26 on a rotary switch for cap selection - that worked out pretty well.

-chris

I've used some ribbon cable like they use in PCs, and it has been terrible.  Some of it can be okay, but some of it melts really easy, I've had to redo some aggravating stuff because it melts right off the wires with a little bit of stray heat gun. 

Fine gauge wire is okay for onboard stuff (solid core being easier to deal with), but thin offboard wire becomes a liability, easy to break when taking pedals apart and putting them together.

I had a hard time with teflon wire until we went through and sharpened all the wire strippers, that made it surprisingly doable.  Just used a square file and made sure the hole where the blades meet to strip the wire is square, not rectangular, if that makes sense.