TILLMAN: HOW TO INCREASE OUTPUT LEVEL?

[DougH]

I've only built others' designs or cobbled together multiple designs into "Frankenstein" sort of things. Same thing with guitar effects.

I feel the same way a lot of the time, Ricky. But if you like building stuff, then build stuff. And if people will pay you for it that's even nicer. The way I see it is as long as you are being honest about who you are, it doesn't matter if you're an "innovator" or this or that or the other. No one knows everything about everything, or even a lot of things. The ones who think they do (or act like they do) are the ones who are in trouble.

[The Tone God]

I think what is lacking all around is respect for each others goals and views as each persons goals in this case are valid in our particular forum;s focus. Offering a simple, while not necessarily the best solution, is just as valid an answer as giving extend technical insight. This is not a case of "there is only one way" so instead of arguing that your own way is the "best" simple state you idea as another option and let other decide for themselves what they wish to use.

I see a number of old sayings being played here like:

You can feed a person a fish or you can teach them to fish and feed themselves

vs.

You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink

Knowledge is power

vs.

Ignorance is bliss

I could go on but you get the idea.

Andrew

[stm]

My realization of my ignorance of electronics theory in general is why I've more or less stopped with the effects building thing. I've built 100+ and tried to design one(it sucked). I finally got the feeling I was nothing more than a puzzle builder(though a decent one) rather than any sort of innovator and thus eventually lost interest.

C'mon, Ricky, don't be so harsh with yourself.  I believe you did a GREAT job with the HMP and its several incarnations.  It wasn't a copy of anything, it became quite popular, and surely served a lot for others to learn during its development.

Regarding your playing, yes, you could blow me out of the water any day!

[DougH]

I see a number of old sayings being played here like:

You can feed a person a fish or you can teach them to fish and feed themselves

vs.

You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink

Knowledge is power

vs.

Ignorance is bliss

I could go on but you get the idea.

Andrew

Yes and it brings to mind many of my favorites like:

Knowledge is bliss.

Ignorance is power.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't teach it to fish.

You can teach a person to fish but you can't make them drink.

Your life is on fire and your children have flown.

The truth is a crowd.

Two is company but three will set you free.

And etc...


( Sorry, couldn't resist... Years ago a friend of mine I worked with wrote a program that would parse a sentence and randomly mix subjects and predicates. He used to feed it old sayings and those are examples of some of the stuff it came up with. I used to have a text file full of the "output" and it would crack you up to read it. This was from the unix pre-xwindows days.)

I agree with your sentiment.

[DougH]

Regarding your playing, yes, you could blow me out of the water any day!

A few years ago Ricky posted a link to a clip of his band. It was really awesome. I would love to hear what they sound like now.

[aron]

>it shouldn't be considered politically incorrect or impolite if people get irritated...

I could see getting irritated IF the person was posting repeated questions of an obvious nature.

[stm]

Regarding your playing, yes, you could blow me out of the water any day!

A few years ago Ricky posted a link to a clip of his band. It was really awesome. I would love to hear what they sound like now.

The song is titled "You're Leaving Me" by The Intention.  I still have a "backup" on my hard drive.  In fact, I'm listening to it as I write this.
To me it is like listening to a great unreleased REO Speedwagon single. ;-)

[frank_p]

You can't judge a topic by looking at it's title

A rolling topic gather no moss
A topic loses nothing at starting an other topic
A forumite in need is a forumite indeed
A topic should be like a lady's skirt: long enough to cover the essentials but short enough to keep it interesting
A topic can stay at the top, but it takes character to keep it there

Tomorrow will be the B ones...
Great software Doug  

[soulsonic]

The very first thing I ever built was a Radio Shack Multi Meter kit! It was the best thing to start with: I learned how to solder correctly (that thing had a million little resistors to solder), and the successful build got me an essential tool. There's no reason not to have the utmost love and respect for the Multimeter.

[gez]

Yes and it brings to mind many of my favorites like:

Knowledge is bliss.

Ignorance is power.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't teach it to fish.

You can teach a person to fish but you can't make them drink.

Your life is on fire and your children have flown.

The truth is a crowd.

Two is company but three will set you free.

And etc...

The frightening thing is, my mother actually uses sayings like the above! 

[StephenGiles]

My grandmother used to say - "as sure as eggs are eggs".

[Ben N]

I have nothing to say either on or off topic (topic?). Just wanted to do my part to make sure this thread never ends. 

[RDV]

http://www.myspace.com/theintentionband
We've not done anything since the demo stuff you can listen to here.

http://www.myspace.com/hardtruthband
My current 'cover' band.



RDV

[slacker]

I have nothing to say either on or off topic (topic?). Just wanted to do my part to make sure this thread never ends. 

Best post ever 

[wampcat1]

I have nothing to say either on or off topic (topic?). Just wanted to do my part to make sure this thread never ends. 

[ClinchFX]

A word of encouragement for those who came out of school without a great understanding of mathematics.

I did poorly in high school mathematics.  I was lucky to get a place in a Technician-in-Training course that was run by an Australian Government department at the time.  When we started learning AC theory and had to calculate phase angles in capacitors and inductors, I suddenly began to understand the trigonometry that had baffled me throughout high school.  I believe the reason for my sudden enlightenment was that there was now a practical purpose, and the previously pointless calculations now made sense.  I achieved high marks through the course.

Since the end of that course which was somewhere between trade certificate and diploma, I've done other studies, including advanced diploma courses in electronics and computing.  Again I was, at times, almost scared off by the maths but, when I could see the practical purpose, I sailed through.

So, to those who don't have a great record in maths and science, don't sell yourselves short.  You're probably capable of all the calculations required for building effects.

By the same token, I fully expect members of a DIY forum such as this one to make the effort to learn the basic terms used in electronics, particularly when other members have gone to considerable trouble to share their knowledge by providing heaps of resources.

Peter.

[StephenGiles]

What I want to know is how maths managed to drop the s between here and the Americas - all of them!

[stm]

A word of encouragement for those who came out of school without a great understanding of mathematics.

I did poorly in high school mathematics.  I was lucky to get a place in a Technician-in-Training course that was run by an Australian Government department at the time.  When we started learning AC theory and had to calculate phase angles in capacitors and inductors, I suddenly began to understand the trigonometry that had baffled me throughout high school.  I believe the reason for my sudden enlightenment was that there was now a practical purpose, and the previously pointless calculations now made sense.  I achieved high marks through the course.

Since the end of that course which was somewhere between trade certificate and diploma, I've done other studies, including advanced diploma courses in electronics and computing.  Again I was, at times, almost scared off by the maths but, when I could see the practical purpose, I sailed through.

So, to those who don't have a great record in maths and science, don't sell yourselves short.  You're probably capable of all the calculations required for building effects.

By the same token, I fully expect members of a DIY forum such as this one to make the effort to learn the basic terms used in electronics, particularly when other members have gone to considerable trouble to share their knowledge by providing heaps of resources.

Peter.

A word of encouragement for those who came out of school without a great understanding of mathematics.

I did poorly in high school mathematics.  I was lucky to get a place in a Technician-in-Training course that was run by an Australian Government department at the time.  When we started learning AC theory and had to calculate phase angles in capacitors and inductors, I suddenly began to understand the trigonometry that had baffled me throughout high school.  I believe the reason for my sudden enlightenment was that there was now a practical purpose, and the previously pointless calculations now made sense.  I achieved high marks through the course.

Since the end of that course which was somewhere between trade certificate and diploma, I've done other studies, including advanced diploma courses in electronics and computing.  Again I was, at times, almost scared off by the maths but, when I could see the practical purpose, I sailed through.

So, to those who don't have a great record in maths and science, don't sell yourselves short.  You're probably capable of all the calculations required for building effects.

By the same token, I fully expect members of a DIY forum such as this one to make the effort to learn the basic terms used in electronics, particularly when other members have gone to considerable trouble to share their knowledge by providing heaps of resources.

Peter.

Great story.  Just two comments regarding learning anything:

1) Motivation is a great learning factor
2) Some concepts just require time to sink in

[DougH]

What I want to know is how maths managed to drop the s between here and the Americas - all of them!

Because it's stupid, that's why.

Are we supposed to pluralize the rest of our school subjects too?- Histories, Spellings, Englishes, Physical Educations, Sciences, Arts, Woodshops?

And anyone guilty of pluralizing the word music into musics is guilty of the most pompous and pretentious atrocity ever committed against the English language. Makes me wretch every time I hear it...   

[DougH]

1) Motivation is a great learning factor
2) Some concepts just require time to sink in

I couldn't agree more.

And I really used to hate it when it took 12 weeks to sink in when it was a 10 week course...

Now, let's see if we can make it to 9 pages.