My first pedal project (smd) with pictures

Started by Ice-9, July 29, 2008, 05:55:21 PM

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Ice-9

I have been working on building a pedal and wanted to build it using smd components and pcb's. The first requirement was to get all the switch gear on a single pcb that i could use in all the pedals i make.
This pcb has input and output jacks , psu jack, led, effect circuit protection and batt clip all on the pcb. the second pcb has the entire effect wth the pots . The two boards connect together with 4 wires that carry  power + - and input output. I hope some of you have some good feedback on what improvements i can make and pro's / con's of what i am trying to do.

The first pic is the full unit from the top
[img][http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/Schematics-etc/29072008303.jpg.html/img]

the second pic is the switch board from the copper side and the effect with no pots
http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/Schematics-etc/29072008298.jpg.html
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Ice-9

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frequencycentral

Incredibly neat build - I like the 4 wire thing. What's the effect?
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Ice-9

This efect is a simple overdrive with gain tone and level.
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Ice-9

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snufkin

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Ice-9

Thanks for the comment Snufkin. i hope to improve on a few bits. not sure if i want to make them a one pcb affair or eep them seperate.
If i keep them seperate the any effect board i do will just connect to the main board with the same 4 wire. there is still quite a bit space in the box for the effect pcb. I am going to try and get a flanger in the same size 1590bb size case, only problem i think i  will have is geting the bbd chips in a surface mount package. Does anyone know of a surface mount bbd chip ??
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rogeryu_ph

Nice built Ice-9,
Is that a true bypass? 3PDT? no mil circuit isn't it.... haven't tried smd yet :-\

Roger

Ice-9

@Rogeryu_ph - Yeah its a true bypass that ive used in the pcb with 3pdt. If anyone want the pcb pattern to make themselves i can post it up
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R.G.

Nice work.

The thing I hate about SMD is that film caps don't shrink like silicon and resistors do. You're stuck with having to choose either ceramic caps, huge nominally surface mount films, or a hybrid surface/through hole board.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

DougH

Impressive! I'm envious of your packaging skills. :icon_wink:
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Ice-9

#11
Thats a good point about the caps i agree totally . Although i do have a 10uf tant smd on there and its not too big. The one thing i'm not sure about is the quality of caps in smd packages, i am using mostly ceramics  which if i was to build a project using through hole caps i would prob use silva mica and film not ceramic for improved sound. I'm not sure if you can get silva mica in smd package ? and film are big as you say.
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fluoreszenz

Ice-9, that's an amazing build  :o

Did you solder the smd parts with a regular station or with special equipment like a soldering oven?

frank_p


Ice-9

All components were soldered on using a pair of tweezers and an antex tc 50 watt iron. I just run a flux pen over the pcb after etching it and touch the tip of the iron with solder and the flux does the rest. Its quite easy when you get a bit practice.
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petemoore

  Not to say it must not be really hard [it looks like quite a few new tricks to this 'ol perf-dog], but you've proved to us it can be done, thank you for the details such as the iron and techniques used !
  Your intuition and learning has allowed you to create a nice working OD, sort of a first around here {You probably saw the same youtube on working with SMD's that a member here was nice enough to show a link to?}.
  Congradulations on your success with it !
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Ice-9

Hi again !. If you have a link to the youtube video you mention i would like to check it out.

The way i decided to try out using smd was because ive done a few repairs to Dv equipment removing the likes of tsop48 pin chips and replacing them using the likes of a feeler guage (car tool for checking plug gaps) and a soldering iron, what i got from doing this was finding out that the key to success in removing / replacing smd components is , in my case down to using a good flux pen. It makes it easy to do.

What was hard for me to do was etching the pcbs well.  I first tried the laser print on paper ironed ont the copper board, I got some half decent results but decided to try and make a uv light box from uv leds, that was total failure, so i bought a 8watt uv tube and things started to get much better.

Over the next few weeks i'm hoping to improve on all the pcb's and get a few different types of pedals made. If there is any interest in smd and nobody mind me posting some pictures of my results as i go then i will keep on posting some info here.
Thanks everyone that has looked in.
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frank_p

Quote from: Ice-9 on July 29, 2008, 09:26:01 PM
Hi again !. If you have a link to the youtube video you mention i would like to check it out.

Neh...  The guy just did it by himself.
Great initiative !
Refreshing !

rogeryu_ph

Yes, also a link to how to read those smd resistor and other component value ::)
Maybe you could use circuit cable and socket for easy replacement for head and mainboard such as replacing  between a tubescreamer board and SD1 board though the only problem would be pot value. Is there an in-circuit detachable terminal for pot easy replacement?   

Roger

mnordbye

I'm impressed with how small the SMD componets are. A bass fuzz would be invisible!  :D

Great job Ice-9

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