Germanium Mosrite Fuzzrite guts shots

Started by Sir H C, August 03, 2008, 11:27:17 PM

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Sir H C

So I got a fuzzrite a while back, cheap, didn't think to look too closely.  But finally did, found it was a germanium one.  Here are some shots:







all three ceramics are .05's.  Transistors are 2N408s. 

Dan N

Thanks, Chris!

Pretty cool how they used the switch as a standoff. I assume the little guys going to the blend pot are .002's. Maybe some time you can measure the pot values? Two different schematics have 33K and 500K.

Thanks again!

theehman

I saw a schematic for the germanium version a while back but I can't locate it now.  Does anyone have it?
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petemoore

  If that unit still works, it's a great pic for those "Can I build on this" type threads...
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theehman

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theehman

Is there a resistor off the board in that unit?  Looks like its missing a 22K.
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GREEN FUZ

I reckon R6 is soldered directly from lug 3 of the fuzz/depth pot to lug 1 of the volume.

Sir H C

Quote from: theehman on August 04, 2008, 08:34:56 AM
Is there a resistor off the board in that unit?  Looks like its missing a 22K.

Yes, you can see it hiding in the background, shy little bum.

8mileshigh

What a thing of beauty, I think I make have owned one in a past life  !  How does it sound ?
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Sir H C

Quote from: 8mileshigh on August 04, 2008, 05:43:53 PM
What a thing of beauty, I think I make have owned one in a past life  !  How does it sound ?

Fun, wondered why it sounded much better than my other Mosrite.  I love the Mosrite/Sierra/Rosac trifecta.

Baktown

QuoteI love the Mosrite/Sierra/Rosac trifecta.

All three of those brands were made right here in lovely Bakersfield, designed by Ed Sanner, who I believe is still alive.  He had this old house on the east side of town (in the barrio) that he used as a shop, and it was loaded from floor to ceiling with everything under the sun.  I drove by his shop the other day and it looks like it's still in business, maybe I'll stop in and see if he's still around.

Rock on!

Rick J

Solidhex

Quote from: theehman on August 04, 2008, 08:31:34 AM
Quote from: GREEN FUZ on August 04, 2008, 07:37:34 AM
Is it this one?

http://eu11.stripper.jp/pulcino/blog/images/fuzzrite.gif

That's it.  Thank you!  I just happen to have the transistors to build one of those.

Hey Ehman

  What are your RCA's measuring gain wise? I've had more luck with this circuit with a higher gain in q1 like others have reported...

--Brad

theehman

Haven't checked them for gain yet.  I just found them the other day.
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Sir H C

Quote from: Baktown on August 04, 2008, 10:08:01 PM
QuoteI love the Mosrite/Sierra/Rosac trifecta.

All three of those brands were made right here in lovely Bakersfield, designed by Ed Sanner, who I believe is still alive.  He had this old house on the east side of town (in the barrio) that he used as a shop, and it was loaded from floor to ceiling with everything under the sun.  I drove by his shop the other day and it looks like it's still in business, maybe I'll stop in and see if he's still around.

Rock on!

Rick J

I would love to get in touch with him, especially if he still has some of the Sanner fuzzes for sale, but still for making some amazing pedals.


Pedal love

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Rick, I think Ed now resides in Tehachapi, Ca. He is very religious so you shouldn't say GD or anything like that around him.

Solidhex

Quote from: theehman on August 05, 2008, 06:38:57 PM
Haven't checked them for gain yet.  I just found them the other day.

  I've been messing with some old house numbered RCA's. Same package as the ones in the pics. The spec sheets on the originals state that q1 is usually around 120hfe and q2 around 65hfe. So far the best sound has been a 200hfe in q1 and 80hfe for q2 both with around 100 leakage.
  Sticking lower gains in q1 sort of makes the sound dull. Less gain, less top end. The 22k resistor that goes from the .002 to ground (R6) is sort of annoying. It bleeds a fair amount of the q2 signal to ground. Probably to even out the volume of the two ends of the tone pot. I've seen schems calling for a 33k volume pot but that seems like it would hurt the output...probably go with the 500k.

--Brad

nico13


Derringer

looks like it's just a reservoir / filter for the power supply