Will these caps work in our pedals? This is for the Tycho Octavia

Started by jimbob, October 02, 2008, 01:31:25 AM

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jimbob

I just noticed it said 6.3v.


USA0J330MDD
Mouser Part #: 647-USA0J330MDD
Manufacturer: Nichicon
Description: 7mm Radial Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors 6.3V 33uF 5X7 20%Tol 2LS 85Deg
  Data Sheet 
Will these caps work in our pedals? This is for the Tycho Octavia
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jpm83

I Wouldn't use them. I usually use caps that can handle twice the voltage that the circuit is going to see. 16 volt caps are the minimum that I use for stomp boxes.

Janne

Mark Hammer

You can use caps rated that low when they are in series with the signal.  For instance, if they were just before an output volume pot, a 6.3v rating would be fine.  You can also use 6.3v caps to decouple the reference voltage in 9v circuits (the V+ divided by half will be 4.5v, so 6.3v rating is safe).

jimbob

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Celadine

Different types of capacitors react to over-voltage in different ways; electrolytic caps could leak their gooey insides all over your circuit board/enclosure/et. al.  Why risk it?

When the 'capacitance tolerance' is listed, it refers to the voltage range over which the capacitor can function.  The ones you refer to have a +/-20% tolerance.  This means that the cap may fail at a voltage of 6.3v +/- 6.3 x 20%; 5.04v to 7.56v.  A 10v cap with +/-20% tolerance may fail at 8 to 12v.  Its good to err on the side of caution with electrolytics, which is why 16v caps (as jpm83 mentioned) are recommended for 9v projects.  16v caps with +/-20% tolerance fail at ~13v in the worst case, a good margin of error.


calpolyengineer

Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that it was a relation to their actual capacitance. I know at least with resistors that they are tested on the assembly line. Resistors that are within 1% are separated and labeled as such, then resistors that are 2% are separated, and on and on. So theoretically, a 10% tolerance resistor should be at least 5% off. With capacitors I imagine they do a similar process, but I'm not sure how you would measure failure voltage.

-Joe

Celadine

Hmmm....  Yeah, I was probably thinking of AC power supplies, where capacitance is linked to total output voltage, so you have to factor in the tolerance when choosing caps.   :icon_redface:  And over-voltage from a 9V battery probably won't cause the cap to leak.*  But its still good to have a margin of error!   :)


* - aluminum electrolytic cautions/failure modes/info:
http://www.rubycon.co.jp/en/catalog/e_pdfs/aluminum/CautionAlumi_Eng.pdf#Page=1